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#iofiSeninPro KRS Drawing and Chit Chat together with @黒瀬-浩介
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| 06月22日 21:01:32 |
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@minyaksayuroil |    |
| 06月22日 21:03:55 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] Kurose: Sorry to intrude, thanks for having me, im a mangaka, Kurose here! |
| 06月22日 21:04:16 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] Iofi: So sensei, what is this you did? Kurose: I was spending my time waiting and did this lmao |
| 06月22日 21:04:27 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] Iofi: man.....this is the power of a mangaka, a pro mangaka |
| 06月22日 21:04:43 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] Kurose: this is just a rakugaki i swear, Iofi: What? My rakugaki is just this! |
| 06月22日 21:05:18 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] Kurose: I actually do wanna do that kind of rakugaki you know, because soft rakugaki is basically just an actual doodle and stuff |
| 06月22日 21:05:42 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] Iofi: Now, i wanna say congrats to you Kurose-sensei, that THE HOLOLIVE MANGA IS GETTING AN ID RELEASE! |
| 06月22日 21:06:19 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] Iofi: okay, so far there's only 3 volume released right? yeah |
| 06月22日 21:07:01 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] (This is the hololive manga, yamato Phantasia, right now having its official Release in Indonesia) |
| 06月22日 21:07:44 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] Iofi: When was the last time you did a hololive drawing? Like 2-3 years ago? I remember that was in an expo |
| 06月22日 21:08:12 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] Iofi: And yeah, for those who are wondering, this is...apparently a doodle, a rakugaki if you will |
| 06月22日 21:08:22 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] Iofi: Like how tf idk, im just gonna save this drawing |
| 06月22日 21:08:36 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] iofi: There should be an export icon here, for PNG or PSD |
| 06月22日 21:08:42 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] Kurose: Oh there is! Nice~! |
| 06月22日 21:08:51 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] Kurose: Thats amazing actually, Iofi: AHAHA, technologiaaaa |
| 06月22日 21:09:15 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] Iofi: Okay, this is the icon for...the new layer |
| 06月22日 21:09:20 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] Kurose: the plus icon! OH NO |
| 06月22日 21:09:24 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] iofi: ITS THE MONSTER AGAIN |
| 06月22日 21:09:52 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] (now where's the undo button i wonder) |
| 06月22日 21:10:31 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] Kurose: What am i gonna do if there's no undo, Iofi: well, now meanwhile we're looking for undo button, here's the 1st question we got from the viewer |
| 06月22日 21:11:23 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] "So you did Yamato Phantasia, how long did you know Hololive for" Kurose: i watched, Fubuki and Sora |
| 06月22日 21:11:33 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] Kurose: like the 1st gen stuff? Iofi: Wow this guy's a veteran |
| 06月22日 21:11:45 |
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@minyaksayuroil | *how long have you known hololive for |
| 06月22日 21:12:14 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] iofi: yknow, i....actually didnt know anything about hololive back when i auditioned, so, knowing you KNEW hololive even from back then.....truly a daisenpai |
| 06月22日 21:13:02 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] iofi: So did they approach you for the comic? Kurose: yes actually, i did a few fanarts for them and....yeah, they approached me asking for a collab for the manga stuff |
| 06月22日 21:13:22 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] Iofi: oh isnt that great tho? Like, they actually the one to approach you |
| 06月22日 21:14:35 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] (basically, Kurose watched 1st gen back in the day, and did quite a few fanarts stuff of hololive talents and holo actually approached him to draw a manga for them, Yamato Phantasia) |
| 06月22日 21:14:42 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] Iofi: See, guys, the key is always, love |
| 06月22日 21:14:49 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] iofi: Btw, speaking of love, who is your oshi? |
| 06月22日 21:14:54 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] Kurose: Uhhhhh |
| 06月22日 21:15:03 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] Kurose: Thats...hard...to answer...but i guess Sora and Fubuki??? |
| 06月22日 21:16:31 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] (Back then, hololive wasnt that big when Kurose-sensei started watching and now...its become a HUGE company, Kurose sensei is amazed) |
| 06月22日 21:16:46 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] iofi: Woops, your avatar's kinda...loading over here, im just gonna fix it |
| 06月22日 21:17:07 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] Iofi: Wow there's a lot of stuff here, but here you go, i got your avatar back |
| 06月22日 21:17:16 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] Iofi: So...your oshi is Sora huh....i mean good taste |
| 06月22日 21:18:14 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] Iofi: Sora's got a strong image in Hololive too really, like the idol impression is just there |
| 06月22日 21:18:36 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] (The monster is still there btw, Kurose's trying to refresh) |
| 06月22日 21:18:56 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] Kurose: Alright i managed to refresh the page! lmao |
| 06月22日 21:19:03 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] Iofi: nice now lemme grab the next question |
| 06月22日 21:20:04 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] Question: Teach me how to balance between your health and work, especially resting between works |
| 06月22日 21:20:35 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] Kurose: Well, resting between works are important, and....i know that sometimes that could be hard, because I ALSO SOMETIMES FORGOT ABOUT HEALTH AND STUFF |
| 06月22日 21:21:06 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] Kurose: sometimes whenever i work i just...got too focused and forgot about the time |
| 06月22日 21:21:25 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] Kurose: but, for me, every 3 hours should be the ideal time for resting a bit |
| 06月22日 21:22:10 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] (as per usual, Kurose got the mangaka woes, which is "forgetting to rest whenever they worked too hard" BUT that didnt stop Kurose-sensei to advice you to take care of yourself) |
| 06月22日 21:22:22 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] (i mean Kurose DID faint quite a bit) |
| 06月22日 21:23:14 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] Iofi: i mean same, whenever i draw, i got lost in time, i just forgot to eat even, and....moving is just so...bothersome really |
| 06月22日 21:23:33 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] Kurose: For me, i just arrange it in a way that i got my ipad where i want to or my tablet |
| 06月22日 21:26:07 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] (talking about deadlines and such, also talking about if Kurose-sensei did have an assistant or not, the answer is no) |
| 06月22日 21:26:31 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] Kurose: I did this stuff all by myself, but....i do think sometimes that this is SUCH a hard work to do it all by myself |
| 06月22日 21:26:56 |
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@minyaksayuroil | *its such a HARD work |
| 06月22日 21:27:23 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] iofi: yeah i was just thinking like, "did mangakas have assistants or no" but...looks like you dont huh |
| 06月22日 21:27:37 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] Kurose: yeah i dont have one~! thats why i did all those stuff for tankobon ALL by myself |
| 06月22日 21:27:41 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] Iofi: Thats.... |
| 06月22日 21:27:50 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] iofi: thats gotta be hard yknow |
| 06月22日 21:29:57 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] (although minimal,. Kurose sensei DID sleep, even IF there is a work ongoing) Iofi: i mean...resting IS imporatnt after all, especially sleeping |
| 06月22日 21:30:38 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] (Iofi thinking about how her vtuber work is also the same....what with the deadlines and such, and how sometimes she gotta pull all-nighter) |
| 06月22日 21:31:33 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] Kurose: But there's also gaming too, i mean, sometimes i gotta grind you know? Like how else am i gonna "relax" |
| 06月22日 21:31:55 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] Kurose: ALthough i did forget about time too whenever im gaming too so yeah |
| 06月22日 21:32:46 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] "How much time do you need to draw 1 page? I want to know the timeline" Kurose: I tried to do consistently at 2 pages per day |
| 06月22日 21:32:54 |
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@minyaksayuroil | *2 chapter |
| 06月22日 21:35:26 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] (Since its a monthly release, Kurose sensei did have a more leeway on time, so sometimes he only did a few pages for a chapter) |
| 06月22日 21:36:14 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] Iofi: So...what about when you work on Goblin Slayer? Kurose: it was hard! Iofi: lmao, did you still follow that routine tho? the 2 per day? |
| 06月22日 21:37:04 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] Iofi: See, we dont really have any manga magazines like Shonen jumps here, so how many pages you usually gotta do every release? |
| 06月22日 21:38:23 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] (Kurose sensei often thinks about those authors that does Weekly manga because obviosuly that's gonna take MORE work and will affect their health if they are not careful) |
| 06月22日 21:39:09 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] Iofi: If you are in a situation where you just dont wanna draw anything, what do you do? Kurose: REST and GAME |
| 06月22日 21:39:24 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] iofi: Chat is saying stuff like: "Oh mangakas are human too after all~" |
| 06月22日 21:39:29 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] Kurose: Dont forget to rest guys! |
| 06月22日 21:39:53 |
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@minyaksayuroil | iya ini artistnya goblin slayer |
| 06月22日 21:40:02 |
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@minyaksayuroil | also Hololive-YamatoPhantasia |
| 06月22日 21:40:55 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] Kurose: They do trust me on the works they gave me, so i can balance it out with some of the rest i take |
| 06月22日 21:41:14 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] Iofi: Alright moving on to the next question: "How do you get your inspiration for your manga?" |
| 06月22日 21:42:24 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] Kurose: Alright...as for Yamato Phantasia....actually i did only a bit of research and sometimes i just revised the idea i already got from my own manga i did |
| 06月22日 21:43:23 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] Kurose: The story is kinda random, since im not really good at it, so i am very open to suggestions, but yeah some of the stuff i did take is from my own existing ideas, Iofi: So thats why some- |
| 06月22日 21:43:33 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] iofi: Scenes do feel like "oh that looks like a reference to this" |
| 06月22日 21:43:51 |
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@minyaksayuroil | @kotakkardus6734 Sora sama Fubuki katanya tadi di menit 8-9 |
| 06月22日 21:44:08 |
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@minyaksayuroil | abis pertanyaan "gimana rasanya kerja sama holo" |
| 06月22日 21:45:32 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] (So many layers to do, we gotta refresh) |
| 06月22日 21:45:42 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] iofi: wait, i even kinda forgot which layers are mine hold on |
| 06月22日 21:45:50 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] Kurose: isnt that one for sharpening? |
| 06月22日 21:46:19 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] Iofi: wait, the layer is- hold on |
| 06月22日 21:46:28 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] Kurose: oh noooo, which is for which |
| 06月22日 21:47:34 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] Iofi: okay, here it is, maybe because it is a guest account so i cant see these ones |
| 06月22日 21:48:38 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] "There's a lot of kemonomimi in your manga, is that your type" |
| 06月22日 21:48:51 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] Kurose: I did do a lot of animal ears character and also elf, i like them |
| 06月22日 21:48:59 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] Kurose: I mean, i also can draw a furry too |
| 06月22日 21:49:02 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] Iofi: WHAT? REALLY |
| 06月22日 21:49:15 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] Kurose: yeah this kind of kemono character (animal chara) |
| 06月22日 21:49:31 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] Iofi: Ah a furry huh |
| 06月22日 21:49:43 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] Iofi: see, kaigainiki call these: Furry |
| 06月22日 21:50:49 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] Iofi: I mean this kind of kigurumi? is that what they are called in japanese? yeah these kind of characters do get cosplayed a lot |
| 06月22日 21:51:05 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] Kueose: what? Its really rare in Japan tho?? |
| 06月22日 21:51:21 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] (a furry cosplayer is...SUPER rare in Japan, a little knowledge for you) |
| 06月22日 21:51:55 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] Iofi: yeah they are apparently called Kigurumi in Japan huh |
| 06月22日 21:52:20 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] Iofi: chat said "its summer, thats gonna be super hot in that" |
| 06月22日 21:52:30 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] Iofi: i mean thats fair, its summer in JP Right? |
| 06月22日 21:53:01 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [ID] (ada yang bilang "kan di JP lagi musim panas, ya panas dong pake kostum furry) |
| 06月22日 21:53:50 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [ID] Iofi: oke lanjut "Minta saran buat gambar monster" |
| 06月22日 21:54:14 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] THIS IS NOT MY QUESTION ITS YOURS CHAT |
| 06月22日 21:54:20 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [ID] INI BUKAN PERTANYAAN AKU INI KAN DARI KALIAN |
| 06月22日 21:54:35 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] Iofi: i mean goblin slayer DO have a lot of monsters in it, goblins and such, how do you do that |
| 06月22日 21:54:46 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [ID] Iofi: Goblin slayer kan banyak tuh monster2an, apalagi goblinnya, nah gimana tuh |
| 06月22日 21:55:02 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] Iofi: okay lets zoom this for a bit |
| 06月22日 21:55:06 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [ID] iofi: oke kita zoom bentar |
| 06月22日 21:55:29 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] Iofi: I mean i usually just draw humanoid monsters mostly even if i did |
| 06月22日 21:55:45 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [ID] Iofi: kalau aku kan biasanya ya, gambarnya yang masih mirip manusia anatominya |
| 06月22日 21:55:58 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [ID] Kurose: Did detailnya sih, kayak sisik atau bulu gitu |
| 06月22日 21:56:04 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [ID] kurose: kayak gini |
| 06月22日 21:56:16 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] Kurose: The key is in the details, like these scales or furs if they have them |
| 06月22日 21:56:28 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] kurose: as for goblins well...THEY ARE IGLY |
| 06月22日 21:56:40 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] Kurose: So i just draw them....like this |
| 06月22日 21:56:52 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [ID_Kurose: kalau goblin kan....JELEK BANGET ya, jadi aku gambarnya tuh...gini |
| 06月22日 21:57:09 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [ID] Kurose: Gambar telinga...terus muka samping, terus eklspresinya....gini, kayak "grrrr" gitu |
| 06月22日 21:57:36 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] Kurose: so i draw the ears the head and then i draw the expressions like they are growling at you "gerrrrrr" |
| 06月22日 21:57:38 |
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@minyaksayuroil | &grrrr |
| 06月22日 21:57:52 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] Kurose: And then the scribbles like "GRAAHHH" |
| 06月22日 21:58:00 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [ID] Kurose: Terus sininya kayak "GRAAHH" |
| 06月22日 21:58:05 |
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@minyaksayuroil | @Ar_kana gua grrr balik |
| 06月22日 21:58:58 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] (Kurose sensei only used scribbles for the goblins body, and use eraser for....details??? i dont even know thats possible) |
| 06月22日 21:59:21 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [ID] (Buat badan goblin, kurose sensei tuh pake garis awur awuran terus dia hapus2in beberapa garis pake penghapus buat detailnya) |
| 06月22日 21:59:39 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [ID] (gambar pedang) |
| 06月22日 21:59:42 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] (Sword drawing) |
| 06月22日 22:00:15 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN TL] iofi: I see, okay so thats how you draw lines huh |
| 06月22日 22:00:35 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [ID TL] Oh jadi...cara sensei bikin garis tuh gitu ya, oke, soalnya kalau aku bikin timeline tuh pasti keliatan banyak ngapus garis |
| 06月22日 22:00:55 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] Iofi: I mean i did erase my lines a lot whenever i tried drawing a line, so...line confidence huh |
| 06月22日 22:01:45 |
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@minyaksayuroil | tarik garis terus percaya |
| 06月22日 22:02:29 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] Chat JP: I dont understand lmao, Kurose: Basdically "Dont think, Feel" |
| 06月22日 22:02:45 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [ID] Chat JP: Sumpah ga ngerti wkwk, Kurose: intinya "jangan dipikirin, dirasain aja" |
| 06月22日 22:02:49 |
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@minyaksayuroil | "Dilemesin aja" |
| 06月22日 22:03:21 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [ID] Pertanyaan: Gimana kalau gambarannya ga sesuai sama yang di bayangin |
| 06月22日 22:04:19 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] "What do you do if the drawing is not as what you imagined it would be?" Kurose: basically i'll try to atleast adjust it as close as to what i imagined |
| 06月22日 22:04:31 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] kurose: But there's also option 2: Sleep lmao |
| 06月22日 22:05:17 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [ID] Kurose: Kalau ga sesuai bayangan,aku pasti nyoba nyesuain sesuai sama yang aku bayangin atau harapin, ngikutin imajinasi aja....tapi ada opsi kedua, tidur wkwk |
| 06月22日 22:05:33 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] iofi: I mean i do sometimes feel like "Ah this doesnt feel like what i imagined" |
| 06月22日 22:05:47 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] Kurose: thats a common problem that artist do have after all |
| 06月22日 22:06:12 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [ID] Iofi: Kalau aku juga gitu sih kadang ngerasa kayak "Aduh kok ga sesuai sama yang dibayangin sih" Kurose: Gapapa, emang gitu kok, problematika nomor satu artist |
| 06月22日 22:06:26 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [ID] Iofi: jadi kalau ga sesuai ya...yaudah...refreshing dulu |
| 06月22日 22:06:45 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] Iofi: So...if its not what you imagined...time to refresh, by sleepiung, gaming, etc |
| 06月22日 22:06:50 |
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@minyaksayuroil | *sleeping |
| 06月22日 22:07:28 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [ID] pertanyaan selanjutnya: Saran buat lineart! mana yang tipis mana yang mesti tebel |
| 06月22日 22:07:44 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] Question: Advice for linearts, when do you use thick lines and when do you use thin lines |
| 06月22日 22:08:12 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] Kurose: For me, this is basically my standard, the pen setting still stays the same |
| 06月22日 22:08:34 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [ID] Kurose: kalau aku ya, standarnya kek gini, settingan pen nya masih sama, jadi tergantung neken pennya apa nggak |
| 06月22日 22:08:49 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [ID] Kurose: dan kalau misalnya masih tipis, timpa aja garisnya biar keliatan lebih tebel |
| 06月22日 22:09:05 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] kurose: And if its too thin, you can just make it thicker by drawing the lines on it |
| 06月22日 22:09:20 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] and as for my method, i just adjust it like these lines |
| 06月22日 22:09:52 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [ID] kalau metode sih, ya itu tadi, tergantung pennya neken apa nggak |
| 06月22日 22:10:05 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] Iofi: but i feel like doing this is super hard for digital drawing tho |
| 06月22日 22:10:15 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [ID] iofi: tapi kalau gambar digi tuh kek susah gitu nyari pressure yang tepat gitu |
| 06月22日 22:10:58 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [ID] Kurose: kalau misalnya gabisa narik langsung, bisa satu2 gini juga, terus dilanjutin |
| 06月22日 22:11:14 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] Kurose: if you cant draw it all the way, you can just draw per lines, like this |
| 06月22日 22:11:17 |
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@minyaksayuroil | *draw them |
| 06月22日 22:11:45 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [ID] Kurose: kdang aku pake garis bantu buat nyesuain linenya bakal kemana |
| 06月22日 22:12:02 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] Kurose: I also use helping lines for deciding where the line is gonna go |
| 06月22日 22:12:09 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] Kurose: To balance it whenever there's two lines |
| 06月22日 22:12:34 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [ID] (Kurose sensei otodidak btw) |
| 06月22日 22:13:00 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [ID] Iofi: emang ya, ujungnya feeling lagi |
| 06月22日 22:13:08 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] iofi: I see, it all comes down to "Feeling" |
| 06月22日 22:13:41 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] Kurose: See, its easier when its monochrome manga, because its just black and white |
| 06月22日 22:13:56 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [ID] Kurose: Agak lebih gampang karena ini kan manga monokrom jadi hitam sama putih aja ya |
| 06月22日 22:14:25 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] Kurose: For pen settings...i just use the default they gave me lmao |
| 06月22日 22:14:35 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [ID] Kurose: kalau settingan penanya....ya...yang default ada disitu wkwk |
| 06月22日 22:15:47 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] Kurose: but sometimes, since i do get used to CSP's stuff, when they dont have the setting CSP i got super confused lmao |
| 06月22日 22:16:32 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] (meanwhile iofi explained how she downloaded....a LOT of brushes for many different occasions) |
| 06月22日 22:17:10 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [ID] Kurose: emang ya beda2 ya cara artist gambar tuh, ada yang pake tools gitu, ada yang pake brush download, menarik wkwk |
| 06月22日 22:17:36 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] Kurose: Man, artists do have different ways to draw, some use different tools, some use downloade brushes....VERY interesting |
| 06月22日 22:18:25 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [ID] (Kurose sensei banggain default setting G-pennya wkwk dibandingin sama download banyak) |
| 06月22日 22:18:57 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] (Kurose sensei being proud of his default g-pen setting rather than downloading lots of brush lmao) |
| 06月22日 22:19:18 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] iofi: using only the brush they gave you....i cant even begin to imagine lmao |
| 06月22日 22:19:26 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [ID] Iofi: Cuma make yang ada....ga kebayang jir wkwk |
| 06月22日 22:21:03 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] (Iofi wondering about comparing digital drawing and analogue drawing (traditional) especially when it comes to manga) |
| 06月22日 22:21:26 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [ID] Iofi: Emang ya, kalau digi sama tradi tuh beda banget, kalau tradi kan sekali salah waduh tuh, kalau digi kan tinggal create canvas baru |
| 06月22日 22:22:01 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] iofi: I mean, digi and tradiitonal are really different in feels after all, if you messed up in traditional/analogue, you gotta start from scratch, meanwhile you can undo and create new canvas |
| 06月22日 22:22:05 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] -in digital |
| 06月22日 22:22:19 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] (kurose mentioned SAI, iofi getting nostalgic) |
| 06月22日 22:22:32 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [ID] (Kurose-sensei nyebut SAI) Iofi: bejirrr SAI dah lama ga denger itu |
| 06月22日 22:23:11 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [ID] Iofi: Aku juga mulai tuh kan dari SAI ya, nah pas masuk ke CSP tuh "WAH APA INI, ITU APA KOK BANYAK" |
| 06月22日 22:23:29 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] iofi: i also started from SAI so when i start using CSP, i was like "WHOA WHAT ARE THESE" |
| 06月22日 22:23:52 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] (Note: Whenever they said "Kurista" they meant Clip Studio) |
| 06月22日 22:25:19 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] Iofi: we do use a lot of layers in this one app here |
| 06月22日 22:25:28 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [ID] Iofi: Disinipun kita make layer banyak nih |
| 06月22日 22:26:08 |
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@minyaksayuroil | kalo tradi bisa layer enak tuhh |
| 06月22日 22:26:40 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] iofi: i guess we can do one more question then |
| 06月22日 22:26:45 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [ID] Iofi: satu pertanyaan lagi deh ya |
| 06月22日 22:26:53 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [ID] "tantangan terbesar pas gambar manga" |
| 06月22日 22:27:01 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] "whats the biggest challenge about drawing manga" |
| 06月22日 22:30:20 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] (Basically, the biggest challenge for Kurose-sensei is the rules whenever he wants to publish a manga, like "it needs to be like this or that"_ |
| 06月22日 22:30:53 |
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@AiraniIofifteen | Damn nice wisdom how do I translate this- |
| 06月22日 22:32:15 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] (Kurose-sensei also faced problems like sometimes he hits a roadblock on drawing so you're just confused on how to continue) |
| 06月22日 22:33:25 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] Iofi: Right? I mean sometimes i just feel like "oh i just cant continue this" |
| 06月22日 22:33:40 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [ID] ya kan? kadang tuh aku kayak "Aduh kayaknya gabisa lanjut deh" |
| 06月22日 22:34:28 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] Kurose: There are times when you draw something and it was so good and was like "Whoa i did that??" |
| 06月22日 22:34:58 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [ID] Kurose: kadang tuh pas kita gambar, kita bikinnya BAGUSSS banget terus kita kayak "bejir kok bisa" kayak udah level up wkwk |
| 06月22日 22:35:05 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] kurose: its like you just leveled up |
| 06月22日 22:35:49 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] iofi: but yeah, the most important thing in drawing is having fun after all |
| 06月22日 22:35:58 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [ID] Iofi: tapi yah, emang gambar tuh paling penting ya...have fun |
| 06月22日 22:36:18 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [ID] Iofi: kalau asik, ya hasilnya juga asik, tapi yah...kadang rasa asiknya tuh kek ilang |
| 06月22日 22:36:39 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] iofi: But sometimes the "fun" part is just gone some days like poof |
| 06月22日 22:37:35 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] Iofi: There are also times when back in the day you drew something that you saw as masterpiece but when you came back to it improved you saw it and like "what? i drew that monstrosity??" |
| 06月22日 22:38:02 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [ID] Iofi: kadang tuh juga ngerasa, dulu gambar sesuatu yang kita anggep masterpiece banget terus pas udah improve, ngeliat gambar itu lagi kek "kok gini sih dulu gambarnya" |
| 06月22日 22:39:26 |
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@minyaksayuroil | mau upload malah bingung wkwk |
| 06月22日 22:39:59 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] Iofi: well...my biggest challenge....artblock lmao |
| 06月22日 22:40:09 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [ID] Iofi: kalau tantangan terbesarku sih ya.....artblock wkwk |
| 06月22日 22:40:25 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [ID] Iofi: makanya kdang aku tuh mikir "mangaka2 tuh gimana ya kalau mereka artblock" |
| 06月22日 22:40:38 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] iofi: thats why sometimes i do think "how do mangakas manage their artblock phase" |
| 06月22日 22:43:52 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] (Kurose-sensei mentioned how he didnt really get art slump/artblock, because of works and deadlines) Kurose: Basically i cant just get into artblock since works demand it lmao |
| 06月22日 22:44:04 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] kurose: but again, sometimes working without assistant is indeed hard |
| 06月22日 22:44:55 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] Iofi: again, feeling joy when you are drawing is the most important part of all this |
| 06月22日 22:45:19 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [ID] Iofi: yah sekali lagi ya, pas gambar dibawa enjoy tuh emang paling penting ya |
| 06月22日 22:45:43 |
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@minyaksayuroil | "i draw because i like it" |
| 06月22日 22:46:09 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] Iofi: I do think that i want to like learn to draw as in a lesson about drawing but.....lessons are.....kinda boring sometimes lmao |
| 06月22日 22:46:32 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] Kurose: again, the most important point here is "To Enjoy!" |
| 06月22日 22:48:26 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] (The difference between learning from a "lesson" and just learn as you go lmao) |
| 06月22日 22:50:26 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] (balancing between streaming and drawing is hard, as expected) |
| 06月22日 22:54:48 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] Kurose: when it comes to drawing i do am good at it but whenever it comes to coloring, i have....a bit of difficulty on it |
| 06月22日 22:55:27 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] Kurose: like, i am more used to one layer sometimes since it's much more....like analogue drawing |
| 06月22日 22:55:43 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] (traditional) Iofi: Chat is like "hmm" they find that interesting lmao |
| 06月22日 22:56:16 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [ID] Kurose: kalau gambar tuh ya, apalagi warna, kadang aku cuman satu layer sih, soalnya lebih terbiasa kek gitu, karena kayak serasa gambar di tradi |
| 06月22日 22:56:35 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [ID] iofi: pada bilang "hmm menarik" nih chatnya wkwk |
| 06月22日 22:57:13 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] Kurose: its like in X, like when you show them a method to drawing they are like "OH I SEE, WHOAAA" lmao |
| 06月22日 22:57:45 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [ID] Kurose: kayak di twitter ya, kalau ngeliatin cara gambar personal tuh pasti pada kaget wkwk |
| 06月22日 22:58:31 |
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@minyaksayuroil | tolong yopi balancing waktu dulu yaa wkwk |
| 06月22日 22:59:16 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] Iofi: man....drawing is fun huh...also color palette huh |
| 06月22日 22:59:29 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [ID] Iofi: gambar tuh...asik ya.....oh iya, color palette ya.... |
| 06月22日 23:00:45 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [ID] (ngomongin color palette yopi yang dipilih sama mitsuki-mama) Iofi: tapi ya, beda ya antara emang tuntutan kerja sama gambar bebas |
| 06月22日 23:00:55 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [ID] iofi: btw...mabar yuk kapan2 |
| 06月22日 23:01:02 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [ID] iofi: Wilds gitu? Kurose: Ah iyaaa wilds yaaa |
| 06月22日 23:01:23 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] Iofi: by the way, we should play together sometimes, maybe Wilds? Kurose: OH RIGHT THERES WILDS |
| 06月22日 23:01:50 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] (Kurose sensei is a Charge Blade main) |
| 06月22日 23:02:09 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] iofi: meanwhile i have been liking Lances |
| 06月22日 23:02:20 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [ID] iofi: Kalau aku sih lagi suka banget Lance ya, enak gitu ada shieldnya |
| 06月22日 23:02:49 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] Iofi: like, i could just hit the button for shield whenever there's a big attack coming up |
| 06月22日 23:02:59 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [ID] Iofi: kayak tinggal teken aja shieldnya biar aman gitu |
| 06月22日 23:03:05 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [ID] Iofi: iya asik kok lance tuh, tusuk2 |
| 06月22日 23:03:14 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] Iofi: yeah lance is super good, i can poke |
| 06月22日 23:03:48 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] (Kurose-sensei did try lance before but its in Freedom Unite) |
| 06月22日 23:03:55 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [ID] (Kurose sensei pernah nyoba tapi di Freedom Unite) |
| 06月22日 23:04:13 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [ID] Iofi: Aku tuh inget nanya di chat pake senjata apa gitu, pada ngomong lance kan pas itu |
| 06月22日 23:04:27 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] Iofi: I remmeber i asked chat what should i use that i havent used, and chat said Lance |
| 06月22日 23:04:53 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] Iofi: i mean i do feel like whenever i party up there are SO FEW lance players |
| 06月22日 23:05:05 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [ID] Iofi: kalau pas ngelobby tuh kek...sepi gitu yang main lance wkwk |
| 06月22日 23:05:29 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] Iofi: hammer huh? hmm... |
| 06月22日 23:05:35 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [ID] Iofi: hammer ya...aku belum pernah sih |
| 06月22日 23:05:39 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] Kurose: ohhh hammer~ |
| 06月22日 23:06:15 |
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@minyaksayuroil | ayo yop, hammer ngebonk2 kepala |
| 06月22日 23:06:22 |
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@minyaksayuroil | stun max all day everyday |
| 06月22日 23:06:37 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] Iofi: As for Charge Blade....i DONT UNDERSTAND IT ALL |
| 06月22日 23:06:50 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] Kurose: There's a certain...."Romance" when you use Charga Blade |
| 06月22日 23:07:03 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] Iofi: How do you feel when you use it, Kurose: its actually kinda easy when you are used to it |
| 06月22日 23:07:21 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [ID] Iofi: Apa nyoba ya...charge blade.... |
| 06月22日 23:07:28 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] Iofi: Should it try it? Try charge blade?? |
| 06月22日 23:07:46 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] Kurose: it might get overwhelming when you first use it like when i first use it i was like "What? What are these buttons???" |
| 06月22日 23:08:09 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [ID] Kurose: pertama kali nyoba Charge Blade tuh emang overwhelming sih soalnya banyak yg mesti diperhatiin kayak "Eh ini apa? itu apa?" |
| 06月22日 23:08:23 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [ID] Iofi: Chargae Blade juga bisa overheat kan harus di "Reload" dulu |
| 06月22日 23:08:30 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] Iofi: i mean charge blade can slso "overheat" |
| 06月22日 23:08:40 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] I: like isnt it good if it overheat? Flame damage! Cmon! |
| 06月22日 23:09:34 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] Kurose: yeah this is basically how you gotta color when you're only using one layer lmao |
| 06月22日 23:09:42 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [ID] Kurose: ya kayak gini lah kalo warna satu layer |
| 06月22日 23:12:00 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] (There's a huge....difference between MH Dragons and Dragon Quest Dragons lmao) |
| 06月22日 23:12:45 |
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@minyaksayuroil | tangan kanan pena, tangan kiri rathalos |
| 06月22日 23:13:31 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] (Kurose sensei suggesting putting a godzilla figure close to iofi so that she is able to draw him lmao) |
| 06月22日 23:14:16 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] Iofi: Wonder if there's any like...a model figure for him....like a figure you can use for modelling Kurose: I dont think so? |
| 06月22日 23:15:44 |
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@minyaksayuroil | angle and details |
| 06月22日 23:16:18 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] Iofi: There's angle and details to think about when thinking of poses and modelling, Kurose: but thats the best part, the action poses |
| 06月22日 23:16:40 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] Kurose: like, Goblin Slayer action scenes ARE inspired by action games after all |
| 06月22日 23:17:01 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [ID] Kurose: action scenenya Goblin Slayer tuh kan juga inspirasinya dari game ya, game2 action gitu |
| 06月22日 23:17:24 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] Kurose: Like one of those open world action games |
| 06月22日 23:17:31 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [ID] Kurose: kayak game2 action yang open world gitu tuh |
| 06月22日 23:18:32 |
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@minyaksayuroil | bisa lah yop |
| 06月22日 23:18:54 |
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@minyaksayuroil | tangan ngembang dikit, mulut ngeluarin beam |
| 06月22日 23:19:18 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] (Again, Iofi loving godzilla so much and yet she is still...unable to draw him) |
| 06月22日 23:19:21 |
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@minyaksayuroil | *properly |
| 06月22日 23:20:18 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] (kurose and iofi ended up talking abouthow cool godzilla is) |
| 06月22日 23:20:28 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [ID] (jadinya ngomongin soal kerennya godzilla) |
| 06月22日 23:21:08 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] Kurose: like you just saw him in action and was like "DID YOU JUST SEE HOW COOL THAT IS" |
| 06月22日 23:21:15 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] iofi: IKRRR, yeah btw its already...2 hours |
| 06月22日 23:21:20 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [ID] iofi: btw udah 2 jam nih |
| 06月22日 23:21:30 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] iofi: that was a fun talk, it didnt feel like 2 hours |
| 06月22日 23:21:48 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] Kurose: oh i am having so much fun here |
| 06月22日 23:22:06 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] Iofi: "its still2 hours" NO NO we cant let sensei pull an all-nighter |
| 06月22日 23:22:28 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [ID] "baru 2 jam yop" jangan yaaa, kita harus biarin sensei sitirahat |
| 06月22日 23:22:39 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] (promoting the ID release of Yamato Phantasia) |
| 06月22日 23:23:03 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [ID] (Ngingetin kalo Yamato Phantasia udah ada rilisan indonya) |
| 06月22日 23:25:07 |
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@minyaksayuroil | WKWK |
| 06月22日 23:25:13 |
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@minyaksayuroil | collab mh ga sih |
| 06月22日 23:25:36 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] iofi: Anyway thanks for coming guys! Dont forget to check Kurose-sensei's channel in the description too! |
| 06月22日 23:25:45 |
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@minyaksayuroil | [EN] Kurose: I dont stream that much thoooo |
| 06月22日 23:28:03 |
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@minyaksayuroil |  |
| 06月22日 23:28:21 |
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@minyaksayuroil | bejir udah 2 jam lebih ngeTL, meninggoy dulu |