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12/02
00:041764601487269021
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@stenfish
7
12/02
00:041764601498937445
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@stenfish
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12/02
00:111764601894818705
00:111764601894818705
@Sid影野
gnite all 
12/02
00:141764602043109330
00:141764602043109330
@Jellrend
メンバーシップ入り:Gemlins
12/02
00:161764602166367862
00:161764602166367862
@Sid影野
back
12/02
00:161764602179060178
00:161764602179060178
@Sid影野
HSR room is up
12/02
00:161764602191787755
00:161764602191787755
@Sid影野
ogey fr fr gnite all 
12/02
00:371764603479493073
00:371764603479493073
@Z-E-R-O-N-E
Good night 
12/02
00:391764603553245060
00:391764603553245060
@dusksentinel7164
Rest well.
12/02
01:051764605141369556
01:051764605141369556
@AxcelTSX
12/02
01:151764605748342265
01:151764605748342265
@dusksentinel7164
12/02
01:161764605802802871
01:161764605802802871
@stenfish
~
~
12/02
01:401764607211022184
01:401764607211022184
@HeathHayden1982
メンバーシップ入り:Gemlins
12/02
02:041764608654238980
02:041764608654238980
@Majin_D
happy Monday all 
12/02
02:101764609017440398
02:101764609017440398
@dusksentinel7164
Monday it may be, but happy...? 
12/02
02:151764609340158133
02:151764609340158133
@Linksmasher
12/02
02:191764609592911780
02:191764609592911780
@dusksentinel7164
I suppose there is Biboo later. Fine, you win this one.
12/02
03:221764613323290844
03:221764613323290844
@nikyuut
12/02
03:221764613365968453
03:221764613365968453
@nikyuut
happy Tuesday
12/02
03:231764613422348740
03:231764613422348740
@schwarzerregen9338
メンバーシップ入り:Gemlins
12/02
03:551764615304730979
03:551764615304730979
@Foreverparadoxed
Hope you feel better today Biboo
12/02
04:031764615820637468
04:031764615820637468
@dusksentinel7164
There be cute girls in her future. One thinks she must be feeling somewhat better.
12/02
04:041764615843330855
04:041764615843330855
@dusksentinel7164
And maybe a cool playable boss. 
12/02
06:221764624175534868
06:221764624175534868
@RavenNightwing
Welp, RIP my sleep for tonight. 
12/02
06:591764626344867193
06:591764626344867193
@RavenNightwing
. . . 

12/02
07:201764627634257505
07:201764627634257505
@Galiaverse
12/02
07:211764627682519149
07:211764627682519149
@RavenNightwing
12/02
07:321764628341667334
07:321764628341667334
@Galiaverse
...Then you shall remain steadfast on the path to death. ------------
---->
12/02
07:401764628821786966
07:401764628821786966
@LecxaTSX
Finally using the wings huh Raven
12/02
07:451764629131415190
07:451764629131415190
@Linksmasher
12/02
07:451764629134306014
07:451764629134306014
@RavenNightwing
12/02
07:451764629158009289
07:451764629158009289
@Linksmasher
I think I'm going to bweh (not in minecraft) 
12/02
07:511764629512045060
07:511764629512045060
@Galiaverse
And wings imply limbs... 
12/02
07:521764629576572398
07:521764629576572398
@Galiaverse
I had intended to nap a bit when I got home from work. But I brought pizza home and decided to eat that. But then I decided to work out first THEN eat the pizza. Now there's only an hour left.
12/02
08:061764630380399843
08:061764630380399843
@stenfish
did someone mention limbs? \
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12/02
08:091764630592382069
08:091764630592382069
@salematmn
メンバーシップ入り:The Boulders
12/02
08:121764630731289650
08:121764630731289650
@Galiaverse
12/02
08:171764631074178282
08:171764631074178282
@durrem
Oh, Kitchen appliance used to boil water is on Youtube, like Biboo was on Twitch.
12/02
08:181764631113531850
08:181764631113531850
@stenfish
wait... what? did I imagine the limbs? :o
12/02
08:251764631530503628
08:251764631530503628
@RavenNightwing
Galia: "Which implies limbs
"
12/02
08:321764631937065535
08:321764631937065535
@dank6966
メンバーシップ入り:Gemlins
12/02
08:571764633473048595
08:571764633473048595
@Eepysleepie
メンバーシップ入り:Gemlins
12/02
09:071764634053420639
09:071764634053420639
@alkerias
メンバーシップ入り:Gemlins
12/02
09:351764635745760853
09:351764635745760853
@Sid影野
おはよう
12/02
09:421764636145480506
09:421764636145480506
@Katspspsp
メンバーシップ入り:Gemlins
12/02
09:461764636369277962
09:461764636369277962
@Linksmasher
12/02
09:491764636565475811
09:491764636565475811
@Sid影野
12/02
10:341764639265024507
10:341764639265024507
@nisidake999
メンバーシップ入り:Gemlins
12/02
11:201764642019196941
11:201764642019196941
@Djengu
メンバーシップ入り:Gemlins
12/02
12:131764645202835335
12:131764645202835335
@Sid影野
back
12/02
12:131764645230869999
12:131764645230869999
@Sid影野
what i missed, or did i missed something important?
12/02
12:351764646545663680
12:351764646545663680
@totallycoolninja
メンバーシップ入り:Gemlins
12/02
13:281764649684068243
13:281764649684068243
@AxcelTSX
12/02
13:291764649746086376
13:291764649746086376
@Sid影野
i missed pretty the first 3hrs, thats like pretty much the whole thing
12/02
13:291764649769233731
13:291764649769233731
@cyberyure
Yes, pretty much all of it
12/02
13:301764649804599678
13:301764649804599678
@cyberyure
Although she just did the usual, she couldn't hold back and rolled for the guy but she got it in like 30 pulls? I think that's it
12/02
13:301764649834800503
13:301764649834800503
@AxcelTSX
12/02
13:301764649838322668
13:301764649838322668
@Sid影野
ah, i see, thanks for the info
12/02
13:311764649886451140
13:311764649886451140
@AxcelTSX
12/02
13:321764649971379294
13:321764649971379294
@AxcelTSX
12/02
13:371764650222588212
13:371764650222588212
@Linksmasher
12/02
13:371764650234152273
13:371764650234152273
@Linksmasher
As long as she is happy...
12/02
13:371764650250315063
13:371764650250315063
@FspaceP
oh biboo ended early huh
12/02
13:381764650280733843
13:381764650280733843
@cyberyure
It's funny how Biboo changes my perception on short and long streams
12/02
13:381764650284650397
13:381764650284650397
@FspaceP
i can't stand watching her gacha streams..
12/02
13:381764650303377645
13:381764650303377645
@AxcelTSX
12/02
13:381764650335860221
13:381764650335860221
@Sid影野
why is that F P, lol 
12/02
13:391764650356421271
13:391764650356421271
@cyberyure
Future and Past?
12/02
13:391764650380786577
13:391764650380786577
@FspaceP
The way she talks and sounds like lack of self control kills me inside
lol sid
12/02
13:401764650447309978
13:401764650447309978
@AxcelTSX
also i've rechecked and the person behind Gepard is Makoto Furukawa... known for Shirogane from Love is War and Saitama from One Punch Man... also no hes not the VA for Loid
12/02
13:401764650452582016
13:401764650452582016
@cyberyure
And she shall get back to Uma Musume
12/02
13:411764650509899421
13:411764650509899421
@AxcelTSX
12/02
13:421764650534850614
13:421764650534850614
@FspaceP
Did you see the yt ai post on reddit about biboo
12/02
13:421764650572016436
13:421764650572016436
@AxcelTSX
12/02
13:421764650576306625
13:421764650576306625
@cyberyure
There are very few seiyuu that I can say "this is this character" immediately, mainly I am just like Biboo thinking "I've heard this voice before"
12/02
13:431764650610468640
13:431764650610468640
@FspaceP
@AxcelTSX apparently yt ai said "viewers in chat are discussing a character named biboo and her voice actor, marina inoue, who also voices other characters."
12/02
13:431764650625379754
13:431764650625379754
@FspaceP
yt ai doxxed who biboo actually is
12/02
13:441764650642715798
13:441764650642715798
@cyberyure
I just Googled it


12/02
13:451764650744498427
13:451764650744498427
@AxcelTSX
12/02
13:451764650756001865
13:451764650756001865
@Sid影野
btw just incase anyone missed it, new Biboo short is out
12/02
13:471764650820065678
13:471764650820065678
@AxcelTSX
12/02
13:471764650830206444
13:471764650830206444
@FspaceP
@AxcelTSX but what if....
12/02
13:481764650885351026
13:481764650885351026
@AxcelTSX
12/02
13:481764650904402381
13:481764650904402381
@FspaceP
we need a biboo short series too of members dancing rock in and doing the bubabubabuba buba or however you spell it
12/02
13:491764650955956314
13:491764650955956314
@FspaceP
@AxcelTSX that's great
thanks.. last time they ended the stream comparing which gun is bigger and which gun is more of a grower
12/02
13:501764651023047821
13:501764651023047821
@cyberyure
That was wild
12/02
13:501764651033556405
13:501764651033556405
@Sid影野
if there is going to be shorts of other Holomems dancing to "ROCK IN!", should have the mem that is in that particular short to also sing the "boom boom ba boom boom yeah" part also, F P 
12/02
13:501764651044333143
13:501764651044333143
@cyberyure
YabaiRyS always bringing the yabai out of everyone
12/02
13:511764651117217481
13:511764651117217481
@FspaceP
10m rock in views, yagoo does that part
12/02
13:521764651140814832
13:521764651140814832
@cyberyure
Oh, don't know if you guys have seen it, but I've seen a couple of people who seem to not understand how chat works, at least when it comes to us chatting in a Biboo stream
12/02
13:521764651152727248
13:521764651152727248
@cyberyure
New people obviously, but still
12/02
13:541764651253433301
13:541764651253433301
@Sid影野
i only pretty much caught the last 1hr today, 46 62. Could you explain more of how those chatters were?
12/02
13:541764651263180561
13:541764651263180561
@Sid影野
could have been tourist maybe
12/02
13:541764651274459226
13:541764651274459226
@Sid影野
tourists*
12/02
13:551764651301011640
13:551764651301011640
@bryanperez5534
メンバーシップ入り:Gemlins
12/02
13:561764651411820824
13:561764651411820824
@cyberyure
There's a guy who seems to think he talks more directly with Biboo and with a bit more familiarity than he should, especially because he even said that he's new, something like that
12/02
13:581764651527737244
13:581764651527737244
@cyberyure
In a chat he tried to downplay his own comments, something like "Not like I'm saying you should this or that but it would be cool"
12/02
13:591764651553496405
13:591764651553496405
@Sid影野
12/02
14:001764651629394483
14:001764651629394483
@Tomgetic
I think I know who you are talking about, they started chatting around 2 or 3 streams ago
12/02
14:011764651707170065
14:011764651707170065
@cyberyure
Yup, very new, there's another one who showed up like 4 streams ago but I don't remember seeing that person today, and supposedly there was a kid today, bc he said he's been a fan since 8
12/02
14:031764651798246717
14:031764651798246717
@Tomgetic
I saw that message too, I was very confused 
12/02
14:031764651812535381
14:031764651812535381
@AxcelTSX
12/02
14:061764651968014335
14:061764651968014335
@AxcelTSX
also off topic i guess... but YT pull yourself together already 
12/02
14:071764652031228424
14:071764652031228424
@Sid影野
fr fr 

12/02
14:071764652039256937
14:071764652039256937
@Tomgetic
If I may complain a bit, the amount of backsitting because of the voice language and 1X speed on the Honkai streams is very annoying 
12/02
14:071764652055275907
14:071764652055275907
@cyberyure
The fact that Twitch does things wrong doesn't mean that you don't have to try YouTube
12/02
14:071764652068465598
14:071764652068465598
@Linksmasher
I asked for the EN voice once
12/02
14:081764652085332691
14:081764652085332691
@Linksmasher
and then she did the poll thing and I said "oh boy, knowing the WEEBS this is SO OVER"
12/02
14:081764652088276212
14:081764652088276212
@AxcelTSX
12/02
14:081764652090848907
14:081764652090848907
@Linksmasher
of course JP voices are going to win
12/02
14:081764652102863093
14:081764652102863093
@Linksmasher
the poll was an unnecessary evil
12/02
14:081764652116214774
14:081764652116214774
@AxcelTSX
12/02
14:081764652127105113
14:081764652127105113
@cyberyure
I mean, at least Biboo asks, is not like we're imposing unlike other chats, and Biboo can clapback like the response to the speed thing
12/02
14:091764652189418205
14:091764652189418205
@Linksmasher
first time I was just radioning the stream, I really don't care at all about mihoyo games and their scummy gachas
12/02
14:101764652207783254
14:101764652207783254
@AxcelTSX
12/02
14:101764652209120462
14:101764652209120462
@Linksmasher
I love Bijou to no end, but this game, I just can't be bothered to even pay 2 cents of attention
12/02
14:101764652226213317
14:101764652226213317
@Linksmasher
it is just a constant yapping about nonsense that no one is going to remember
12/02
14:101764652240865100
14:101764652240865100
@Sid影野
just going to say it and get it out now, i did caught chat here and there while i was busy today, and just going to say being JP, i can see who is weeb trying to be JP, its so easy to catch for me
12/02
14:101764652242057352
14:101764652242057352
@Sid影野
12/02
14:101764652250332600
14:101764652250332600
@Linksmasher
yeah, the only good thing are the cute Bijou noises, everything else is just... meh
12/02
14:111764652276636780
14:111764652276636780
@Linksmasher
last stream Bijou was like: oh, the EN Voices are great
12/02
14:111764652285384016
14:111764652285384016
@Linksmasher
some chatters were saying "yeah, keep them"
12/02
14:111764652290564727
14:111764652290564727
@Linksmasher
now on today stream
12/02
14:111764652301257439
14:111764652301257439
@AxcelTSX
12/02
14:111764652309953471
14:111764652309953471
@Linksmasher
"but JP voices are so familiar" SAME CHATTERS from previos stream "yeah, they are cool, keep them"
12/02
14:111764652317013355
14:111764652317013355
@Linksmasher
0 personality over there, huh?
12/02
14:111764652319207975
14:111764652319207975
@Linksmasher
fakers
12/02
14:121764652322751412
14:121764652322751412
@cyberyure
I don't even know why you would pretend, I used to just say hi whenever I went to watch JP streams but never really pretended
12/02
14:121764652338049244
14:121764652338049244
@Linksmasher
I don't even care about the story, it is always deus ex machina
12/02
14:121764652357876810
14:121764652357876810
@cyberyure
What do you think about Uma Musume Axcel? Biboo might get back to it later
12/02
14:121764652379573451
14:121764652379573451
@Sid影野
im not saying that they cant say JP stuff or have fun with it, its just sitting back and just watching the cringe is pretty amusing when you can catch the obvious ones 
12/02
14:131764652380212263
14:131764652380212263
@Linksmasher
worst of all, we are going to stick to this for so long..
12/02
14:131764652395094077
14:131764652395094077
@AxcelTSX
12/02
14:131764652407564510
14:131764652407564510
@Tomgetic
There was a rude red super about the voices, I’m kinda glad she didn’t read them todat
12/02
14:131764652421230789
14:131764652421230789
@Tomgetic
today
12/02
14:141764652477589390
14:141764652477589390
@Linksmasher
I won't deny that I'm a YES MAN to Bijou, but... Mihoyo games...
12/02
14:141764652483807605
14:141764652483807605
@Linksmasher
I really, really don't like them
12/02
14:141764652484722863
14:141764652484722863
@AxcelTSX
Aha... yeah I totally didnt say any of the JP chuuni stuff 
12/02
14:141764652497363906
14:141764652497363906
@cyberyure
I still need to watch from Umayon, the episodes that I didn't watch, then watch S2 and the rest of what I've missed
12/02
14:161764652563687324
14:161764652563687324
@Linksmasher
the Red supa wasn't mean
12/02
14:161764652565983242
14:161764652565983242
@cyberyure
And I don't know if Biboo should be surprised about the majority preferring the JP dun instead of the EN one since most of us are weebs
12/02
14:161764652570890854
14:161764652570890854
@Sid影野
nah like for example, i got back to stream around the "kanojo" part, and i see lots of greys going "girlfriend"
12/02
14:161764652592718542
14:161764652592718542
@Sid影野
and im just sitting back laughing at the cringe weebs 
12/02
14:161764652593977614
14:161764652593977614
@Linksmasher
it is just people that for a weird reason, detest anything that is anime-oriented to be spoken in anything but Japanese
12/02
14:161764652618544203
14:161764652618544203
@cyberyure
In english or written in japanese?
12/02
14:171764652641714432
14:171764652641714432
@Linksmasher
I grew up watching anime in Latin American, and honestly, it is not bad
12/02
14:171764652649721269
14:171764652649721269
@Linksmasher
but weebs be weebs
12/02
14:171764652669165142
14:171764652669165142
@Sid影野
kanojo 彼女 just simply means "this" girl, its a direct referring to a female right there
12/02
14:171764652673112042
14:171764652673112042
@Tomgetic
Rude as in “This message did not need to be a red super” is what I meant, sorry
12/02
14:181764652690256162
14:181764652690256162
@Linksmasher
oh, better for her, more money
12/02
14:181764652709765237
14:181764652709765237
@Linksmasher
whenever I see some SCs from people that I have blocked, it is just "yay, free money"
12/02
14:181764652711734699
14:181764652711734699
@Tomgetic
Yeah true 
12/02
14:181764652724737411
14:181764652724737411
@cyberyure
Oh, I did know that I was just asking if they wrote it in either language or if there's a different spelling in japanese
12/02
14:191764652754440126
14:191764652754440126
@AxcelTSX
nah i get you Rinku... I do prefer the JP dub but the EN dub isnt that bad... and I think there are people that overblew the whole EN dub is bad thing
12/02
14:191764652760205963
14:191764652760205963
@cyberyure
Oh, is Rinku here?
12/02
14:201764652811285180
14:201764652811285180
@Tomgetic
Right… some of you have another blocked
12/02
14:201764652814740513
14:201764652814740513
@durrem
back in the day, EN dubs were really bad. I guess some people just got used to them. Nowadays they're much better.
12/02
14:201764652815901130
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@cyberyure
It's not bad, at least it's not DB first English dub levels of bad, but some of their sentences were a bit cringe still
12/02
14:201764652816613562
14:201764652816613562
@Sid影野
@46 62, no im just referring to the weebs i saw that were saying that kanojo means "girlfriend" part of that, in chat
12/02
14:201764652834711096
14:201764652834711096
@AxcelTSX
huh... guess kanojo means this girl but could also mean girlfriend?
12/02
14:211764652879095720
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@AxcelTSX
i guess it depends on the context and usage... 
12/02
14:211764652887293548
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@cyberyure
I think more than being wrong they were playing with the fact that the word can also be used to refer to a girlfriend, like a less sus version of the comments that Biboo makes that make chat go "Ayo"
12/02
14:211764652896362221
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@Sid影野
please dont get the wrong idea, i dont hate or dislike weebs, im just saying, that it gets cringe and funny on this side for me
12/02
14:221764652928349384
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@Sid影野
it can mean girlfriend yes, but its in the context usage yes
12/02
14:221764652974932917
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@Sid影野
and in that particular context, it is not girlfriend and its just funny how i saw a bunch going "girlfriend"
12/02
14:231764652981496837
14:231764652981496837
@Tomgetic
People are free to be cringe as long as they don’t bother others
12/02
14:251764653106027105
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@Sid影野
yes, like i said earlier, i not saying that they cant say it or be cringe, im just saying its funny seeing it as JP
12/02
14:251764653133337913
14:251764653133337913
@Sid影野
it sticks out to me i guess is the more short version
12/02
14:261764653203184872
14:261764653203184872
@Tomgetic
Yeah, I imagine that from your perspective it must be quite funny 
12/02
14:261764653205177002
14:261764653205177002
@AxcelTSX
nah i get ya Sid... 
12/02
14:271764653247271201
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@cyberyure
Speaking of funny, I probably found Biboo's rendition of Despacito extra funny and adorable
12/02
14:271764653262720300
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@cyberyure
At least compared to you guys who probably don't speak spanish
12/02
14:281764653310111750
14:281764653310111750
@Tomgetic
Anyway, I must sleep, or else my sleep schedule will be permanently damaged, bye! 

12/02
14:291764653343507483
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@AxcelTSX
12/02
14:291764653346289762
14:291764653346289762
@Sid影野
rest well Tomgetic
12/02
14:291764653362084854
14:291764653362084854
@cyberyure
Have a good rest Tom
12/02
14:291764653376995863
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@Sid影野
its probably the same かわいい as when Biboo does JP i assume for Spanish speakers 
12/02
14:301764653433314655
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@Sid影野
(i think that English made sense)....
12/02
14:311764653505400552
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@cyberyure
I understood, but it's probably grammatically wrong
12/02
14:311764653508910446
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@AxcelTSX
12/02
14:321764653547941174
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@AxcelTSX
you mean to tell me there are thousands of unique looking kanji out there? 
12/02
14:321764653559732180
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@cyberyure
Hiragana and katakana are more like syllables, at least the majority of them, very few letters on their own
12/02
14:331764653601347895
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@cyberyure
In Japan no matter what you're always studying japanese afaik, in university you study to know at least 4000 different kanji
12/02
14:331764653626112602
14:331764653626112602
@AxcelTSX
and we have to memorize like 1000 to 2000 to have a basic understanding of it right? thats insane 
12/02
14:341764653642432416
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@Sid影野
kanjis has 3 different readings, there is the standalone reading, the if its followed by another kanji reading, and the if its followed by a haragana reading, simple right? 
12/02
14:341764653658050138
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@cyberyure
Something that's good about the kanji is that there are main ones and they construct other kanji, and thanks to that you can try to figure out what it means a bit better
12/02
14:341764653682668383
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@AxcelTSX
like imagine the word among us but instead of it spelled like that its ඞ
12/02
14:351764653727521120
14:351764653727521120
@AxcelTSX
12/02
14:351764653737060613
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@cyberyure
Like, there was one time where I went to a website Pekora used to set up an alarm, but it was in JP, the alarm she used was a bomb, but I only saw kanji, the I saw the 爆裂 written
12/02
14:351764653759044773
14:351764653759044773
@flaggrpw9717
メンバーシップ入り:Gemlins
12/02
14:361764653770227724
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@cyberyure
There I realized that it was probably that one because it was the only kanji that included 火 in it, which means fire
12/02
14:371764653838505757
14:371764653838505757
@AxcelTSX
based on what youve learn... how much kanji do you guys know 
12/02
14:381764653882852181
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@Sid影野
im not gonna answer that, i dont think i count in this inquiry
12/02
14:381764653894279622
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@cyberyure
I probably know around 20, no joke, I know basically nothing, I just use the clues to guess what I'm reading, and I have JP in my virtual keyboard to check it
12/02
14:391764653944758601
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@cyberyure
I don't study JP, somehow I've just been able to get some of it to stick in my memory
12/02
14:391764653987173532
14:391764653987173532
@AxcelTSX
12/02
14:401764654047946644
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@AxcelTSX
12/02
14:401764654053305736
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@cyberyure
It is way harder than english, with english I just had to lock in and I was able to learn it in 4 months (to be able to communicate in MMORPGs)
12/02
14:411764654068463522
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@Linksmasher
12/02
14:411764654080702247
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@Linksmasher
what was that Spanish comment?
12/02
14:411764654087657282
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@Linksmasher
oh, I guess what it was
12/02
14:411764654090993268
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@cyberyure
I don't have the same time I used to with english but I bet I would still need close to 2 years to actually do the same thing
12/02
14:411764654111385756
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@Linksmasher
I don't like the whole Despacito thing, but it is so famous that well, it is on Karafun
12/02
14:411764654113534204
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@AxcelTSX
12/02
14:421764654123671354
14:421764654123671354
@Linksmasher
that's why I requested something better
12/02
14:431764654182234976
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@cyberyure
Not quite, it depends on how close your language is to it, english is just a mess, japanese is complicated because the structure of the language is different, english is a Frankenstein language
12/02
14:431764654184128877
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@AxcelTSX
12/02
14:431764654212314611
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@Sid影野
i got 3 languages in my head, and they were all used and learned at the same time since i saw able to speak i guess, so that said, i think the hard part is remembering when you dont use it for a bit
12/02
14:431764654218613291
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@AxcelTSX
12/02
14:431764654239797520
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@cyberyure
I did have to learn to pronounce words in english
english doesn't even have a standard way to pronounce vowels as spanish does
12/02
14:451764654314242844
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@AxcelTSX
12/02
14:451764654320733602
14:451764654320733602
@dimpufrn8201
To me English is very inconsistent tho
12/02
14:451764654349476602
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@cyberyure
It seems there are more exceptions than rules to it
12/02
14:471764654425417530
14:471764654425417530
@dimpufrn8201
Like, words that look similar might be pronounced differently. Or those whose pronunctiation isn't anywhere close to how it's written.
12/02
14:471764654432995402
14:471764654432995402
@Linksmasher
For Spanish speakers, English is very weird
12/02
14:471764654459755868
14:471764654459755868
@AxcelTSX
its the sudden silent words in english that makes me go huh sometimes 
12/02
14:471764654479660223
14:471764654479660223
@Linksmasher
I even noticed Kaela speaking broken English
12/02
14:481764654486428376
14:481764654486428376
@AxcelTSX
like telephone is spelled telefon here... which makes much more sense to me at least
12/02
14:481764654505376197
14:481764654505376197
@cyberyure
And I just kinda recently learned that Arkansas is not pronounced similarly to Kansas... English why?
12/02
14:481764654511549394
14:481764654511549394
@Linksmasher
There was a stream where she said, "I deaded"
12/02
14:481764654528479997
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@AxcelTSX
wait no thats when to combined words makes the same sond as one word thing... ok but thats still sonfusing to me 
12/02
14:491764654567719051
14:491764654567719051
@AxcelTSX
ah yes... the past, present and future tenses 
12/02
14:491764654573184334
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@Sid影野
i guess i also cant relate to this English problem, since the 3 languages in my head were not learned later in the age, as they were learned at a very young age as a Native speaker of those languages
12/02
14:501764654645643058
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@AxcelTSX
where some words are spelt differently (ir spell and spelt) and some only has ed added in the end (ir add and added)
12/02
14:511764654713790858
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@AxcelTSX
lets also add in silent words like our and hour... or similar sounding words like air and heir 
12/02
14:521764654753819904
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@AxcelTSX
...
ok i think i can understand why english is confusing now that I think about it
12/02
14:531764654785626672
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@cyberyure
Silent letters* and you see, we're way more consistent in spanish, we only have 1 silent letter most of the time, it's h
12/02
14:531764654829787437
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@cyberyure
When it's not it's because it's paired in "ch" or "sh"
12/02
14:551764654916833100
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@AxcelTSX
12/02
14:551764654934780545
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@cyberyure
That's what I'm saying
12/02
14:571764655068042562
14:571764655068042562
@AxcelTSX
12/02
14:581764655080277875
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@Sid影野
well, English is an evolution of Anglo, French, Germanic, and Roman borrowed words iirc....so...things are going to happen
12/02
14:591764655178246672
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@cyberyure
Anyways... I'll leave you guys, until the next Biboo stream
12/02
15:001764655205796825
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@AxcelTSX
12/02
15:011764655271594939
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@Sid影野
HF 46 62
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12/02
15:021764655371336472
15:021764655371336472
@AxcelTSX
12/02
15:031764655431377342
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@Sid影野
1000 should be enough to get by as a casual JP user i guess
12/02
15:031764655439353986
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@AxcelTSX
12/02
15:051764655545915559
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@Sid影野
if you think about kanji learning in this way (as in you are learning the word or the vocabulary, and not JUST the kanji itself) 1000 kanjis isnt really all that much
12/02
15:081764655681754368
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@AxcelTSX
12/02
15:081764655691988435
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@AxcelTSX
compare* 
12/02
15:091764655779267777
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@AxcelTSX
like for the most part... i have to learn the basics like basic words, verbs, grammars, etc. which usually comes from school
12/02
15:101764655835834764
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@AxcelTSX
then exposures to english based contents like cartoons and books helped grew my knowledge on it 
12/02
15:111764655875091318
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@Linksmasher
12/02
15:111764655882175860
15:111764655882175860
@Linksmasher
every language is complex
12/02
15:121764655943146819
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@AxcelTSX
im guessing that I could do the same for JP if I have time to learn and study the basics first... while also let myself expose to it via anime, manga, tokusatsu or just streams in general
12/02
15:151764656111648521
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@Sid影野
hmmm, im gonna explain something about the 3 languages in my head and it will kind of more pertain to JP, but i help this will help you vision the process (try my best to explain it)
12/02
15:151764656146891774
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@Sid影野
but i hope* this will help
12/02
15:161764656160030873
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@AxcelTSX
like in one instance in Geats where he said the line "Sā, koko kara ga hairaito da"... Ignoring the obvious hairaito is just highlight, i know that koko is "here", sa is "now" from the TL...
12/02
15:181764656322775298
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@Sid影野
nm, i am waiting to see if there is more to what you are saying, as im not so sure now if my explanation would be helpful
12/02
15:211764656483196394
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@AxcelTSX
but then we have kara which im trying to identify in the EN TL "Now, here comes the highlight"... im guessing its relating to the current or some sort of verb used here 
12/02
15:221764656557201407
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@AxcelTSX
basically my lack of understanding basic word sentences, grammars, verbs, etc. makes learning JP much harder 
12/02
15:231764656630973733
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@Sid影野
kara is a modifier to denote the very present i guess is the best i can explain it
12/02
15:241764656651310915
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@Sid影野
its like, to get to "that" present
12/02
15:251764656724845030
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@Sid影野
so like koko = here, kara = comes (get to whatever to "here")
12/02
15:251764656736474149
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@Sid影野
so here comes is correct
12/02
15:271764656869742863
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@Sid影野
think of it as space or time, another example
12/02
15:271764656872141376
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@AxcelTSX
12/02
15:281764656900296206
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@Sid影野
ima = now, ima kara = right now
12/02
15:291764656982595500
15:291764656982595500
@AxcelTSX
so is kara more on an emphasis?
12/02
15:301764657025715272
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@Sid影野
yea, i guess you can look at it like that
12/02
15:301764657037040982
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@Sid影野
its like a "cause"
12/02
15:321764657166664237
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@Sid影野
i think that might confuse you a little bit more if i say "its like a cause"
12/02
15:321764657168911088
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@AxcelTSX
so what happens to the line if theres no kara then? would it be like "Now, here is the highlight" ?
12/02
15:331764657194729265
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@Sid影野
but yea, emphasis is probably a better explanation
12/02
15:331764657196515613
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@AxcelTSX
or Now, comes the highlight?
12/02
15:341764657275036075
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@Sid影野
no then it becomes Now, highlight is over here" because koko GA
12/02
15:341764657296365469
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@Sid影野
ga is like emphasizing koko
12/02
15:351764657335655778
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@Sid影野
or over HERE is highlight
12/02
15:361764657396483927
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@Sid影野
or like HERE (the here location) is highlight
12/02
15:361764657419319756
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@AxcelTSX
12/02
15:381764657493710951
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@Sid影野
yes, but because there is no kara, and ga is after koko, the koko is emphasis by ga, so the "HERE" is emphasized as important
12/02
15:381764657524956237
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@Sid影野
so its like you are pointing to HERE is higlight
12/02
15:411764657687088723
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@AxcelTSX
so koko ga is "Here" with an emphasis while koko kara ga is "Right / come here" I assume... 
12/02
15:411764657689555135
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@Sid影野
i mean it can translate to "highlight is here" also, but literally because of the ga after koko, its like you are pointing to HERE (wherever here is)
12/02
15:421764657743664862
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@Sid影野
its not come here
12/02
15:431764657794276745
15:431764657794276745
@Sid影野
its like, to "get to" the here
12/02
15:431764657806093757
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@Sid影野
so here comes is correct
12/02
15:431764657807866218
15:431764657807866218
@AxcelTSX
12/02
15:451764657939222310
15:451764657939222310
@AxcelTSX
12/02
15:451764657959525831
15:451764657959525831
@AxcelTSX
ima kara = from now? and koko kara = from here?
12/02
15:461764657972788966
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@Sid影野
kind of?
12/02
15:461764658001885998
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@Sid影野
from is kind of correct also
12/02
15:471764658051159912
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@Sid影野
i dont know if i should example it that way though
12/02
15:471764658063699092
15:471764658063699092
@Sid影野
it might start to get confusing and not make sense
12/02
15:481764658081331443
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@AxcelTSX
hmm... is kara what you use when you want to say the current space and time starts here?
12/02
15:481764658109623557
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@Sid影野
but technically its not wrong
12/02
15:481764658126200071
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@AxcelTSX
like how "koko kara" is more "Its starts from here" but we can use "from here" for short?
12/02
15:491764658144665567
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@Sid影野
you almost got it
12/02
15:491764658162335338
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@AxcelTSX
or how "ima kara" is "it starts from now" but shorten to "from now" also works
12/02
15:501764658226542957
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@Sid影野
yea....?
12/02
15:511764658265976413
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@Sid影野
i mean, you arent wrong, but its like, not definitive
12/02
15:511764658267115132
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@MeasureFowl
メンバーシップ入り:Gemlins
12/02
15:511764658293348893
15:511764658293348893
@Randomized1970
12/02
15:551764658552615402
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@AxcelTSX
im guessing so cause kara (like you said) is a modifier to denote the very present
12/02
15:561764658560644765
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@Sid影野
yea, you know what, "from" might be most simplify way to view kara
12/02
15:561764658566831458
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@AxcelTSX
the present being either time or place
12/02
15:571764658628262871
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@AxcelTSX
so im trying to relate the sentence having kara as like this time / place starts from here
12/02
15:571764658646699789
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@Sid影野
its more like because of "this" in my head, but thats hard for me to explain it to where it make sense in English
12/02
16:001764658838974397
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@Sid影野
so like "whatever time" kara and then the place would be correct
12/02
16:001764658857063913
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@Sid影野
to what you are trying to relate the sentence
12/02
16:031764659010606542
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@Sid影野
ok here, maybe this will help
12/02
16:031764659036202042
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@Sid影野
but let me brb real quick and then ill type it when i get back
12/02
16:041764659069055936
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@AxcelTSX
12/02
16:061764659200228181
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@AxcelTSX
12/02
16:091764659353408410
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@Linksmasher
I'm watching but
12/02
16:091764659357051748
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@Linksmasher
I have nothing to add
12/02
16:091764659382595534
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@dusksentinel7164
12/02
16:091764659390986489
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@AxcelTSX
12/02
16:111764659461154188
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@Sid影野
back
12/02
16:111764659487938473
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@AxcelTSX
im guessing that kara is used if you want to emphasize a place / time that you have in a sentence that youve made 
12/02
16:111764659490311491
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@Sid影野
oh sorry, shall we move to a different topic then?
12/02
16:111764659510013581
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@Sid影野
yes, and also more
12/02
16:121764659540281169
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@Linksmasher
I mean it is yours to do whatever
12/02
16:121764659562028673
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@Sid影野
really the most basic i can keep saying is that it is the "cause" but that might not make sense in English
12/02
16:131764659617353184
16:131764659617353184
@AxcelTSX
like its not really the present but more on you want this to be the main starting point / focus for your reasoning on this sentence?
12/02
16:131764659623048023
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@Sid影野
ill do one last example and ill try to break it down maybe it will help, and if the topic keeps going then so be it
12/02
16:141764659694780806
16:141764659694780806
@AxcelTSX
12/02
16:151764659712014564
16:151764659712014564
@dusksentinel7164
I don't mind. I may not understand, but others seem interested.
12/02
16:151764659719237925
16:151764659719237925
@dusksentinel7164
Go for it. 
12/02
16:151764659727518067
16:151764659727518067
@Sid影野
ill do one last example, its going to be not related to the original sentence you presented, Axcel, but i am hoping after i break it down, that you can see the meaning kara to your original sentence
12/02
16:151764659752149191
16:151764659752149191
@AxcelTSX
12/02
16:171764659830010280
16:171764659830010280
@Sid影野
0900時からBibooの配信が始まります
12/02
16:181764659880689585
16:181764659880689585
@Sid影野
0900 ji KARA Biboo NO haishin GA hajimarimasu
12/02
16:181764659908496812
16:181764659908496812
@AxcelTSX
12/02
16:191764659984015335
16:191764659984015335
@AxcelTSX
ok break it down sid
12/02
16:211764660068424247
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@Sid影野
0900 time will/at(at that time) Biboo's (NO) STREAM (GA makes haishin the main topic) start
12/02
16:221764660166027063
16:221764660166027063
@Sid影野
so, Biboo's stream will start at 0900HR (cause of THAT time)
12/02
16:231764660225263448
16:231764660225263448
@Sid影野
does that make sense? 
12/02
16:241764660292047854
16:241764660292047854
@AxcelTSX
12/02
16:251764660321667851
16:251764660321667851
@Sid影野
its really hard to explain it to English for me ngl
12/02
16:251764660335429804
16:251764660335429804
@Sid影野
but it make sense in my head
12/02
16:261764660362700627
16:261764660362700627
@AxcelTSX
in english i think the closest to kara is from... like from 0900 or from here or from now... but from isnt the direct word but rather its used for the context
12/02
16:261764660376718288
16:261764660376718288
@RavenNightwing
12/02
16:261764660377281922
16:261764660377281922
@RavenNightwing
12/02
16:271764660433098768
16:271764660433098768
@Sid影野
yea, from contexted to English make sense and is correct
12/02
16:271764660456188290
16:271764660456188290
@Sid影野
but you also cant just explain it as "from"
12/02
16:301764660640102071
16:301764660640102071
@AxcelTSX
12/02
16:321764660722675128
16:321764660722675128
@Sid影野
ok "dakara/da kara" だから
12/02
16:321764660744469426
16:321764660744469426
@Sid影野
is the informal of ですから desu kara
12/02
16:321764660772630444
16:321764660772630444
@Sid影野
try see if you can explain desu kara to me
12/02
16:331764660789025312
16:331764660789025312
@TreeeBark
I think you’re focusing too much on time Axcel. Its just a “here” usage in general
12/02
16:341764660861903346
16:341764660861903346
@Sid影野
koko is here koko kara is the reason/cause of here
12/02
16:341764660875293931
16:341764660875293931
@Sid影野
koko kara = here comes
12/02
16:351764660942478655
16:351764660942478655
@TreeeBark
Koko stagnant, kara moving, in a way?
12/02
16:361764660992250025
16:361764660992250025
@TreeeBark
Wait why am i here taking over
12/02
16:361764660994965974
16:361764660994965974
@TreeeBark
Sorry
12/02
16:361764660995313348
16:361764660995313348
@AxcelTSX
12/02
16:371764661024246500
16:371764661024246500
@TreeeBark
Got invested 
12/02
16:371764661032474623
16:371764661032474623
@Sid影野
no worries Tree, your good, join if you would like
12/02
16:371764661063971964
16:371764661063971964
@Sid影野
kara=moving is not really correct
12/02
16:381764661110520925
16:381764661110520925
@TreeeBark
Well moving isnt a good word yeah
12/02
16:381764661133410404
16:381764661133410404
@AxcelTSX
12/02
16:391764661167290079
16:391764661167290079
@Sid影野
i might as well disclaimer (im not a JP sensei) 
12/02
16:401764661246384588
16:401764661246384588
@Sid影野
dakara is moe like "that is why/the reason/cause
12/02
16:411764661275743275
16:411764661275743275
@Sid影野
you see i keep going back to 'cause/because" for kara?
12/02
16:421764661324614931
16:421764661324614931
@TreeeBark
We have that in english. People like to say “that’s why” or “cuz” at the start
12/02
16:421764661346758387
16:421764661346758387
@AxcelTSX
12/02
16:421764661354989248
16:421764661354989248
@Sid影野
da = informal desu = it is, kara = the reason/cause
12/02
16:431764661438512274
16:431764661438512274
@TreeeBark
12/02
16:441764661493942475
16:441764661493942475
@AxcelTSX
so ima kara can be "Because starting from now...", koko kara "Because starting from here...", 0900 ji kara "Cause starting from 0900"
12/02
16:451764661509011349
16:451764661509011349
@Sid影野
man i wish Yama-chan is here to elp me lol
12/02
16:451764661514231641
16:451764661514231641
@AxcelTSX
and then removing the because in the front... 
12/02
16:451764661551767646
16:451764661551767646
@Sid影野
ima kara is just time, koko kara is just space or location
12/02
16:461764661588189591
16:461764661588189591
@AxcelTSX
is kara meant like using for the cause of said sentences?
12/02
16:461764661604422381
16:461764661604422381
@Sid影野
yes yes, you are very close
12/02
16:461764661617801555
16:461764661617801555
@TreeeBark
There was a word for this kind of effect a word has on sentence meaning but i forgot what it was 
12/02
16:471764661652620782
16:471764661652620782
@Sid影野
kara is use to emphasis whatever is before kara as the cause?
12/02
16:481764661738414484
16:481764661738414484
@AxcelTSX
before said cause? so in a sentence...
12/02
16:491764661743035339
16:491764661743035339
@Sid影野
ogey now lets go back to Saa, koko kara ga hairaito da
12/02
16:491764661783539750
16:491764661783539750
@Sid影野
notice that it is koko kara and then ga
12/02
16:491764661786447596
16:491764661786447596
@AxcelTSX
0900 is what you want people to know about... then you added "Biboo stream starts" as the cause of it?
12/02
16:501764661825768961
16:501764661825768961
@Sid影野
the opposite Axcel
12/02
16:511764661864742532
16:511764661864742532
@AxcelTSX
12/02
16:511764661867438953
16:511764661867438953
@Sid影野
Biboo stream, start is what i want people to know about
12/02
16:521764661964426313
16:521764661964426313
@Sid影野
the GA puts Biboo's stream at the main focus, and the start is the action
12/02
16:531764662021176900
16:531764662021176900
@Sid影野
the time gets mentioned and emphasized as the "because"
12/02
16:531764662029784004
16:531764662029784004
@AxcelTSX
so sentence structure is like... Cause + kara + main topic?
12/02
16:541764662079913472
16:541764662079913472
@Sid影野
no
12/02
16:541764662085137353
16:541764662085137353
@AxcelTSX
or more like caused + kara + reasoning?
12/02
16:551764662153076919
16:551764662153076919
@Sid影野
ok, here the opposite way lets try
12/02
16:561764662181941408
16:561764662181941408
@Sid影野
Biboo's stream is going to start at 0900HR
12/02
16:571764662245245763
16:571764662245245763
@Sid影野
im going to now put it in Japanese, but i want you to break down the structure but at the same time, our focus is the meaning of kara
12/02
16:571764662261157260
16:571764662261157260
@Sid影野
Biboo's stream is going to start at 0900HR
12/02
16:591764662354717508
16:591764662354717508
@AxcelTSX
uh sid... probably gonna stop rn
12/02
16:591764662366229142
16:591764662366229142
@AxcelTSX
Kanata has an announcement in one minute 
12/02
16:591764662368292815
16:591764662368292815
@Sid影野
0900 ji kara Biboo no haishin ga hajimarimasu
12/02
16:591764662399217647
16:591764662399217647
@Sid影野
ogey
12/02
17:001764662403048151
17:001764662403048151
@TreeeBark
I dont like the look of that
12/02
17:001764662419103864
17:001764662419103864
@AxcelTSX
12/02
17:001764662423147340
17:001764662423147340
@Sid影野
sorry if i got too focused
12/02
17:011764662464043873
17:011764662464043873
@AxcelTSX
12/02
17:011764662481817721
17:011764662481817721
@AxcelTSX
we'll sort this after the announcement
12/02
17:011764662493957779
17:011764662493957779
@Sid影野
oh man, not sure if this will be good
12/02
17:031764662583168549
17:031764662583168549
@Sid影野
she is going to put up EN translation
12/02
17:031764662622388765
17:031764662622388765
@Sid影野
going to talk it out for a bit
12/02
17:031764662634256705
17:031764662634256705
@AxcelTSX
12/02
17:041764662663061717
17:041764662663061717
@Sid影野
she is* going to talk it out for a bit
12/02
17:061764662795268698
17:061764662795268698
@Sid影野
its probably because of her ear/hearing 
12/02
17:081764662893697391
17:081764662893697391
@Linksmasher
12/02
17:081764662897023580
17:081764662897023580
@Linksmasher
holy beep
12/02
17:081764662900716793
17:081764662900716793
@AxcelTSX
12/02
17:281764664096986194
17:281764664096986194
@Linksmasher
welp...
12/02
17:281764664107213568
17:281764664107213568
@Linksmasher
I saw enough
12/02
17:281764664108755742
17:281764664108755742
@Linksmasher
12/02
17:331764664382657081
17:331764664382657081
@Extaria
12/02
17:331764664439281707
17:331764664439281707
@Randomized1970
12/02
17:341764664499521079
17:341764664499521079
@Extaria
It's about what I expected when I saw the white background
12/02
17:351764664502777799
17:351764664502777799
@dusksentinel7164
What happened?
12/02
17:351764664515937351
17:351764664515937351
@dusksentinel7164
Why tears?
12/02
17:351764664528550989
17:351764664528550989
@Extaria
Kanata is graduating on December 27th
12/02
17:351764664550320051
17:351764664550320051
@dusksentinel7164
Oh.
12/02
17:351764664556527138
17:351764664556527138
@dusksentinel7164
I see.
12/02
17:371764664626485455
17:371764664626485455
@AxcelTSX
12/02
17:371764664633455935
17:371764664633455935
@darkwar232100
Noooooooooo
12/02
17:371764664678542670
17:371764664678542670
@TreeeBark
Didnt wanna be happy anyway i guess
12/02
17:381764664690908545
17:381764664690908545
@darkwar232100
I was hoping more Biboo and Kanata collab in the future now she is not just about to leave she is about to be gone gone!
12/02
17:381764664703280795
17:381764664703280795
@Extaria
Seems like the reasons are mix between workload and her deteriorating health
12/02
17:391764664748045428
17:391764664748045428
@Extaria
I don't blame her though, things changed alot since she's been at Hololive
12/02
17:391764664769676449
17:391764664769676449
@darkwar232100
I don’t want to watch hololive anymore, for real, we have lost too many things lately, I was a fan of Kanata, Im going to cope again, god beeping!!!
12/02
17:391764664795843211
17:391764664795843211
@TreeeBark
Lot of people don’t know but the more she pushes her hearing the worse her condition gets. So less relaxing time and more complicated schedules would be uniquely worse for Kanata
12/02
17:401764664829124875
17:401764664829124875
@kohimatcha
sad news about kanatan :(
12/02
17:401764664846070763
17:401764664846070763
@darkwar232100
I don’t want her leave, she can take a much break as she wants, mannnnn
12/02
17:401764664850542799
17:401764664850542799
@Extaria
By her own words Hololive tried accommodating for her situation but there is only so much they can do
12/02
17:401764664856165130
17:401764664856165130
@TreeeBark
And she’s always said she doesn’t want to not be able to enjoy singing or music, so i guess not working would be the only way to save what little left she has
12/02
17:401764664858282275
17:401764664858282275
@Sid影野
please dont get the wrong idea anyone and spread rumors, even though she said that the work load was a lot, she was not blaming Cover, simply workload is a lot for her health condition is how she expl
12/02
17:411764664888932030
17:411764664888932030
@TreeeBark
Yeah she said its unique to her.
12/02
17:411764664908039228
17:411764664908039228
@darkwar232100
12/02
17:421764664941770806
17:421764664941770806
@Extaria
It's always health that gets in the way of passion 
12/02
17:421764664973972177
17:421764664973972177
@TreeeBark
That part about talents and relationships might cause a stir but it seemed like it was also scheduling problems
12/02
17:421764664977626238
17:421764664977626238
@Linksmasher
I don't understand that comment
12/02
17:431764664980276246
17:431764664980276246
@Sid影野
yes, its not much she can do with the nature of the work, and Cover have accommodated her, its just that the nature of the work will cause her hearing to deteriorate
12/02
17:431764664984103417
17:431764664984103417
@darkwar232100
I understand the health conditions and this is best for her, I just cannot take all those beatings that happened in Hololive anymore
12/02
17:431764664996524734
17:431764664996524734
@Linksmasher
not wanting to watch more hololive because of these graduations?
12/02
17:431764665014170484
17:431764665014170484
@TreeeBark
He’s just sad Rinku
12/02
17:431764665015706373
17:431764665015706373
@darkwar232100
We have lost too many! And there also members in breaks we don’t even know the results
12/02
17:431764665016041832
17:431764665016041832
@Linksmasher
what part of TREASURE THE MEMORIES you don't understand?
12/02
17:431764665031016250
17:431764665031016250
@Extaria
And it's very obviously her health situation since she isn't even planning on returning as a content creator
12/02
17:441764665041585760
17:441764665041585760
@Linksmasher
is up to you, but do as you wish, I'm sad, but I'll be here as long as Bijou is.
12/02
17:441764665066868201
17:441764665066868201
@Linksmasher
and I'm going to experience every stream as long as I can be here.
12/02
17:441764665067188551
17:441764665067188551
@Extaria
Same
12/02
17:441764665082413200
17:441764665082413200
@AxcelTSX
12/02
17:441764665087363675
17:441764665087363675
@TreeeBark
I hate how these moments make me painfully aware of time fleeting
12/02
17:441764665089161584
17:441764665089161584
@Linksmasher
it is sad that they go, but STAY and love the ones that are here FOR US
12/02
17:451764665143600641
17:451764665143600641
@AxcelTSX
- Workload issues where the time constraints and improvements was not enough or fast enough for her to continue her work in Hololive.
12/02
17:461764665166316626
17:461764665166316626
@TreeeBark
That first point was def strange to hear is something she still had to deal with
12/02
17:461764665195943056
17:461764665195943056
@TreeeBark
That’s probably why they’re hiring so many people at a fast rate
12/02
17:461764665204826176
17:461764665204826176
@TreeeBark
Staff, i mean
12/02
17:461764665208315175
17:461764665208315175
@Linksmasher
Kanata pushed her situation for many years, it is an issue she commented many times, even when Coco was around
12/02
17:471764665221695060
17:471764665221695060
@AxcelTSX
- Medical condition where she was suggested to reduce said workload but Kanata insisted on doing her goals as much as possible. So they continue under mutual agreement between both parties
12/02
17:471764665257639108
17:471764665257639108
@darkwar232100
I feel Cover is bleeding talents especially this year and this really hurts me, I cannot say no more, but it’s keeping happening, I do have limitation to take those things, I’m not blaming Company tho
12/02
17:481764665292260957
17:481764665292260957
@Linksmasher
compared to other companies, hololive does not bleed as much as others.
12/02
17:481764665299943717
17:481764665299943717
@AxcelTSX
12/02
17:481764665302930058
17:481764665302930058
@Extaria
I don't even feel like it's necessarily an issue on bleeding talents
12/02
17:491764665348107400
17:491764665348107400
@darkwar232100
Kanata situation is understandable, I just feel extremely frustrated, you need to understand I watch all talents in Hololive literally, so each time one of them leaving is a beating in my heart.
12/02
17:491764665369338396
17:491764665369338396
@Linksmasher
some ex-holo members are somewhat active on their second lives, go watch them if you miss them.
12/02
17:491764665386095351
17:491764665386095351
@Sid影野
she was not blaming the workload, she was emphasizing that there IS those workloads she was dealing with, she wants to do activities but just the nature of the work is not good for her hearing
12/02
17:491764665392522118
17:491764665392522118
@darkwar232100
I do but it doesn’t feel the same
12/02
17:501764665401564736
17:501764665401564736
@Extaria
Exactly
12/02
17:501764665412033732
17:501764665412033732
@Sid影野
she has a deteriorating health
12/02
17:501764665435331098
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@Linksmasher
it is never the same, because, they do not actively hang around the talents we watch here, and they have more freedom.
12/02
17:501764665455765672
17:501764665455765672
@Extaria
Her entire situation is unique to her health and the type of job she has isn't really the best for that kind of issue
12/02
17:511764665479872311
17:511764665479872311
@Linksmasher
but again, I'm not defending cover or anything, just saying that while they are here, just.... watch them, always support them the way you feel like, and don't be sad about them leaving
12/02
17:511764665483698028
17:511764665483698028
@AxcelTSX
its more likely that under medical advice she couldve stayed in hololive longer... but it would mean less activities and projects takes longer due to her condition.
12/02
17:511764665487631009
17:511764665487631009
@Linksmasher
be happy that it happened
12/02
17:511764665518245259
17:511764665518245259
@TreeeBark
This isn’t really bleeding considering whole agencies these days are imploding in in themselves. Cover’s doing a good job, despite the demands for them to do a perfect one
12/02
17:521764665533063399
17:521764665533063399
@darkwar232100
I didn’t say I blame the management, and I got her health condition, but I still feel heavily frustrated, and this stressful feeling is accumulating…
12/02
17:521764665563958612
17:521764665563958612
@TreeeBark
Sometimes life just sucks darkwar. Cant blame anything
12/02
17:531764665580966548
17:531764665580966548
@Linksmasher
then find ways to de-stress yourself, do yourself a favor and find ways to love yourself, so you can stand in situations like these
12/02
17:531764665589060731
17:531764665589060731
@darkwar232100
Yeah… you tell me about it….
12/02
17:531764665630450957
17:531764665630450957
@Linksmasher
no one is to blame, just get yourself better.
12/02
17:531764665638351702
17:531764665638351702
@TreeeBark
I hope Kanata can enjoy music and singing for as long as possible
12/02
17:541764665642329826
17:541764665642329826
@darkwar232100
I just want to watch cute girls talking, and doing collaborations for comforting, man…
12/02
17:541764665673560447
17:541764665673560447
@Extaria
Got to take in the bad with the good, that's life, it's how we grow from those experiences that make the difference
12/02
17:541764665680388610
17:541764665680388610
@darkwar232100
Nice thing is so hurt to keep…
12/02
17:541764665687405069
17:541764665687405069
@Linksmasher
you'll keep having that, no one is taking this away from you at all.
12/02
17:541764665687809403
17:541764665687809403
@darkwar232100
Hard*
12/02
17:551764665729460645
17:551764665729460645
@Linksmasher
do not let one talent to diminish he work from many others that gladly would entertain you and make you happy
12/02
17:551764665733020974
17:551764665733020974
@darkwar232100
Sure I will miss Kanata a lot tho…
12/02
17:551764665746956507
17:551764665746956507
@Linksmasher
we all will, you're not alone
12/02
17:561764665777484157
17:561764665777484157
@Extaria
Be happy it happened, it's about the journey we had not the end goal
12/02
17:561764665818361292
17:561764665818361292
@darkwar232100
She said not to expecting her returning in any shape and form, man.
12/02
17:571764665825037951
17:571764665825037951
@Linksmasher
but to me... I just can't be on your shoes. I have a kamioshi that I'll follow until I/she ceases to exist. And I promised that to myself.
12/02
17:571764665855329620
17:571764665855329620
@darkwar232100
12/02
17:571764665860395373
17:571764665860395373
@Linksmasher
many will come, many will go, and until that day comes, I'll be here.
12/02
17:581764665922779963
17:581764665922779963
@Linksmasher
Just embrace the memories, and as I said, do yourself a favor and find ways to chin up. don't be sad. continue watching her up to her last day.
12/02
17:581764665933575162
17:581764665933575162
@Linksmasher
with that said... I'm off.
12/02
17:581764665939717619
17:581764665939717619
@AxcelTSX
I mean... she has Meniere's Disease. Shes already deaf on one ear. Dont think a reincarnation would be the best idea.
12/02
17:591764665956894523
17:591764665956894523
@Linksmasher
I might sound like a mean person, my apologies. but it is what it is. we cannot stop it no matter what.
12/02
17:591764665957181438
17:591764665957181438
@darkwar232100
The thing is that I was expecting some collaboration of Biboo and Kanata in the future, I was setting this expectation too high.
12/02
17:591764665980733264
17:591764665980733264
@Extaria
Happiness is perspective, I'd be more sad if a streamer ignored their health and I saw them deteriorate
12/02
17:591764665981014055
17:591764665981014055
@TreeeBark
Nah thats a reasonable dream. Its just things happen outside of our control ya know
12/02
17:591764665982346911
17:591764665982346911
@AxcelTSX
we still have 25 days left
12/02
18:001764666011383168
18:001764666011383168
@TreeeBark
I’d rather Kanata be happy and as healthy as possible than however she’s been feeling
12/02
18:001764666013781581
18:001764666013781581
@darkwar232100
Not just her ear situation
12/02
18:001764666019505727
18:001764666019505727
@AxcelTSX
12/02
18:001764666029604728
18:001764666029604728
@Linksmasher
we can have a collaboration between the two of them, we have 26 days left.
12/02
18:011764666066703025
18:011764666066703025
@TreeeBark
25, almost the 3rd over there
12/02
18:011764666078058131
18:011764666078058131
@darkwar232100
Kanata can do whatever she wants in last 26 days, I understand we should not force collaborations.
12/02
18:011764666078784903
18:011764666078784903
@Linksmasher
who knows? Maybe Pekochi/Mikochi opens an ark, rust, gta server? and invite everyone to participate to say their farewell
12/02
18:011764666083843273
18:011764666083843273
@AxcelTSX
12/02
18:011764666095575058
18:011764666095575058
@darkwar232100
Still sad
12/02
18:011764666114872871
18:011764666114872871
@Ckkhris
...I'm in a layover...and I get this news...
12/02
18:021764666122958717
18:021764666122958717
@TreeeBark
Kinda dont want things to be forced. But last time they hastened the Rust event for Shion
12/02
18:021764666126749971
18:021764666126749971
@Linksmasher
and one last thing, this g-word event affects everyone, especially them, which are closer each other.
12/02
18:021764666144803786
18:021764666144803786
@AxcelTSX
12/02
18:021764666154202242
18:021764666154202242
@darkwar232100
I still remember her trip with Biboo Im Rust
12/02
18:021764666160196935
18:021764666160196935
@darkwar232100
In*
12/02
18:021764666162013632
18:021764666162013632
@Linksmasher
yeah, if you need to cry, go for it
12/02
18:021764666167270836
18:021764666167270836
@darkwar232100
And recent 3D live
12/02
18:021764666171155389
18:021764666171155389
@TreeeBark
Hey, at least Kanata was in Biboo’s live
12/02
18:031764666185633000
18:031764666185633000
@Linksmasher
I cry whenever Bijou sings, and whenever I listen to Prism No Mahou
12/02
18:031764666191285423
18:031764666191285423
@Ckkhris
...all I can say....thank you for these years Kanatan....we'll miss you
12/02
18:031764666205268084
18:031764666205268084
@darkwar232100
But I was hoping Monster Hunter collab tho
12/02
18:041764666261968848
18:041764666261968848
@TreeeBark
Theres still time until there isnt for things to happrn
12/02
18:041764666264301171
18:041764666264301171
@Linksmasher
it is what it is.
12/02
18:041764666284086108
18:041764666284086108
@Linksmasher
it might happen, or as I said, they might cook a big event and invite everyone
12/02
18:041764666293161797
18:041764666293161797
@TreeeBark
Kinda worried about other members atm cuz Kanata said she didnt tell anyone yet right?
12/02
18:041764666295810855
18:041764666295810855
@Extaria
I personally don't care what someone plays all I care for is the 
12/02
18:051764666305557052
18:051764666305557052
@Linksmasher
I'm sure they will
12/02
18:051764666332733393
18:051764666332733393
@Linksmasher
I just want to see Bijou happy, that's all I want.
12/02
18:051764666350019540
18:051764666350019540
@darkwar232100
They may start to ask her line lol
12/02
18:051764666355876619
18:051764666355876619
@Linksmasher
be seeing you guys, let's enjoy this ride together
12/02
18:061764666361875824
18:061764666361875824
@Linksmasher
12/02
18:061764666399364702
18:061764666399364702
@aura3746
It's not a true Goodbye for the majority of the members to be fair, unless Kanata wants it to be.
12/02
18:061764666400044340
18:061764666400044340
@Extaria
Goodnight! 
12/02
18:071764666421971153
18:071764666421971153
@aura3746
Later Rinku
12/02
18:071764666428403108
18:071764666428403108
@TreeeBark
Hopefully Kanata asked people for their info too
12/02
18:071764666432643526
18:071764666432643526
@AxcelTSX
12/02
18:071764666441322682
18:071764666441322682
@TreeeBark
Asks*
12/02
18:071764666471374111
18:071764666471374111
@darkwar232100
Health really is a unsettling thing, I also miss Mumei a lot
12/02
18:071764666474330962
18:071764666474330962
@Sid影野
rest well Rinku
12/02
18:071764666479526884
18:071764666479526884
@Ckkhris
hey pebbles... my next flight is in a few hours. my flight will be over 10+ hours...I'll be okay by then after all this...
12/02
18:081764666482702463
18:081764666482702463
@Extaria
I doubt she'd completely shut down all communication with her colleagues, after all the reasons were for her health
12/02
18:081764666485384095
18:081764666485384095
@aura3746
I know Marine recently talked about Ao for example. The members that are close to Kanata will almost certainly continue seeing her.
12/02
18:081764666497380534
18:081764666497380534
@darkwar232100
Raora announcement recently also scared me a bit
12/02
18:081764666504694744
18:081764666504694744
@Ckkhris
it isn't easy when news like this drops....
12/02
18:081764666513651477
18:081764666513651477
@TreeeBark
I just say cuz she regrets not asking Coco for hers and they literally lived together lol
12/02
18:081764666530402199
18:081764666530402199
@TreeeBark
Good luck Chris 
12/02
18:091764666544215054
18:091764666544215054
@aura3746
That's so bizarre considering...but I'm not going into that....just if you know, you know.
12/02
18:091764666552034188
18:091764666552034188
@AxcelTSX
12/02
18:091764666555737763
18:091764666555737763
@Ckkhris
....I was a teamate...and I felt that news before hard.
12/02
18:091764666560294254
18:091764666560294254
@Sid影野
stay safe, have a nice flight Ckkhris
12/02
18:091764666566447210
18:091764666566447210
@darkwar232100
And also AO Kun, I kind of like her, but she also had mental health issue
12/02
18:091764666599140909
18:091764666599140909
@TreeeBark
Health issues is definitely the worst because we are made aware that they’re suffering. I guess huh
12/02
18:101764666640226880
18:101764666640226880
@darkwar232100
Biboo plesse take care of your health, god, those things are scary.
12/02
18:101764666646809978
18:101764666646809978
@darkwar232100
Please*
12/02
18:101764666653980583
18:101764666653980583
@Extaria
The part that sucks is when they clearly want to continue but that health gets in the way
12/02
18:111764666662685423
18:111764666662685423
@aura3746
The two this year are worse imo because they're both seemingly "True" Graduations. I didn't watch Kanata, but I loved her singing when I got to hear it.
12/02
18:111764666669988596
18:111764666669988596
@TreeeBark
Oh and she did eventually get Coco’s stuff
just…it took a bit
12/02
18:111764666674070815
18:111764666674070815
@Extaria
Biboo is pretty on top of her health thankfully
12/02
18:111764666678592349
18:111764666678592349
@AxcelTSX
tbh tho point 2 and 3 are kinda connected... she couldve reduce the workload but I think Kanata prefers to do everything rn and spend the rest of her years with other stuff
12/02
18:111764666703663188
18:111764666703663188
@Extaria
The two?
12/02
18:111764666717956332
18:111764666717956332
@AxcelTSX
maybe she couldve stayed longer... but it would mean that Kanata would have to achieve what she already did this year in like 2-3 years time instead
12/02
18:121764666722863848
18:121764666722863848
@aura3746
Ao.
12/02
18:121764666729419179
18:121764666729419179
@darkwar232100
Both physical health and mental health they are equally important.
12/02
18:121764666765334325
18:121764666765334325
@Extaria
Oh wait Ao fully quit content creation too 
12/02
18:121764666766092678
18:121764666766092678
@TreeeBark
I really dont think any sort of change would be enough for her and her hearing problem
12/02
18:131764666793775744
18:131764666793775744
@aura3746
I'm just assuming. Don't quote me on it Extaria.
12/02
18:131764666800647964
18:131764666800647964
@TreeeBark
It is kinda like Ao in a way huh
12/02
18:131764666820535622
18:131764666820535622
@darkwar232100
Not just her hearing issues, she also had a pebble in her kidney and her stomach issues
12/02
18:141764666860100715
18:141764666860100715
@AxcelTSX
the change as in improvements in the workloads and such... again she can reduce those but it would also delay her projects
12/02
18:141764666860596127
18:141764666860596127
@darkwar232100
She is kind of hanging on the edge of collapsing
12/02
18:151764666903985606
18:151764666903985606
@Extaria
Basically staying in Hololive was delaying the inevitable regardless of what she did
12/02
18:151764666914953123
18:151764666914953123
@darkwar232100
Double edge sword
12/02
18:151764666932902755
18:151764666932902755
@Extaria
Her health would simply get worse due to the nature of the job
12/02
18:151764666949336172
18:151764666949336172
@Sid影野
you know what hurts, Kanata likes to say また明日 and she says it even with her dealing with her Meniere's Disease
12/02
18:161764666962952112
18:161764666962952112
@TreeeBark
The problem is she is going to become deaf eventually. Its not an if, but when. So yeah, even scarcing up what she does in order to achieve personal projects would still be accelerating things
12/02
18:161764666993869115
18:161764666993869115
@darkwar232100
Wait deaf, I thought it’s just one ear?
12/02
18:161764666994296875
18:161764666994296875
@AxcelTSX
yup... either she can stay longer but she will have lower activities and slow project releases or go all out
12/02
18:161764667002720842
18:161764667002720842
@TreeeBark
And then even just playing games would make it worse
12/02
18:161764667019053880
18:161764667019053880
@RavenNightwing
. . .
12/02
18:171764667022255323
18:171764667022255323
@TreeeBark
Its both ears. One is already gone
12/02
18:171764667027423367
18:171764667027423367
@AxcelTSX
tbf while it is an if not when situation you can reduce the chances by reducing the workload
12/02
18:171764667031321112
18:171764667031321112
@RavenNightwing
FFFFFFFFFFFUUCK. 
12/02
18:171764667034667097
18:171764667034667097
@darkwar232100
Oh *****
12/02
18:171764667039077489
18:171764667039077489
@Extaria
Her other ear is deteriorating too thanks to her condition
12/02
18:171764667049205686
18:171764667049205686
@RavenNightwing
I just found out. 
12/02
18:171764667054967878
18:171764667054967878
@darkwar232100
Now I don’t feel that much sadness anymore
12/02
18:171764667060936560
18:171764667060936560
@darkwar232100
Both ears?
12/02
18:171764667077956494
18:171764667077956494
@Extaria
I always knew this would happen eventually because of that
12/02
18:181764667080173277
18:181764667080173277
@darkwar232100
Jesus, yeah she needs to leave a long time ago..
12/02
18:181764667083484952
18:181764667083484952
@TreeeBark
She wants to keep singing and enjoying music.
12/02
18:181764667090336410
18:181764667090336410
@AxcelTSX
so yes she couldve stayed longer if she followed the medical advice and followed through the reduced workload and such
12/02
18:191764667140976647
18:191764667140976647
@darkwar232100
I’m curious what is the cause tho?
12/02
18:191764667157144536
18:191764667157144536
@TreeeBark
She probably got told how rapidly things are deteriorating and decided its going to fast to justify staying, even if she didnt want to
12/02
18:191764667162527679
18:191764667162527679
@AxcelTSX
but again going all out and then having more time to herself later on is probably what she wants
12/02
18:191764667175671323
18:191764667175671323
@Extaria
If I remember it was like genetic or something right?
12/02
18:191764667193875546
18:191764667193875546
@darkwar232100
DNA thing?
12/02
18:191764667199762851
18:191764667199762851
@TreeeBark
There isnt really a cause. It kinda just happens…
12/02
18:201764667203306050
18:201764667203306050
@darkwar232100
Ooof
12/02
18:201764667205128815
18:201764667205128815
@Ckkhris
even biboo...
12/02
18:201764667213661030
18:201764667213661030
@Ckkhris
saw
12/02
18:201764667232610905
18:201764667232610905
@darkwar232100
Sh***t Solo live could make it worse…
12/02
18:201764667240489185
18:201764667240489185
@Ckkhris
12/02
18:201764667241321939
18:201764667241321939
@AxcelTSX
no cause point 3 she explain that the medical notice and discussion with cover lead to the suggestion of reducing the workload
12/02
18:211764667275445125
18:211764667275445125
@Sid影野
anyone can get it, and there is no cure
12/02
18:211764667288886157
18:211764667288886157
@darkwar232100
Tbf, if she is going deaf, Vtuber world maybe is really not for her
12/02
18:211764667297832633
18:211764667297832633
@Extaria
From what I see scientists still don't know the cause 
12/02
18:211764667306224656
18:211764667306224656
@AxcelTSX
but leading to point 3 she prefers to achieve all her goals this year instead hence the agreement from both parties
12/02
18:221764667343536348
18:221764667343536348
@darkwar232100
That is nice her legacy needs to stay
12/02
18:221764667375129005
18:221764667375129005
@Extaria
I'm just glad she was able to do as much as she did while she was here
12/02
18:231764667383112396
18:231764667383112396
@darkwar232100
God if she becomes full deaf, I don’t want to think about that…
12/02
18:241764667484933053
18:241764667484933053
@darkwar232100
Too real
12/02
18:261764667592344093
18:261764667592344093
@Extaria
Stuff like this makes me want to get into clinical research to find proper cures for this sort of stuff
12/02
18:261764667593494262
18:261764667593494262
@TreeeBark
Whats kinda funny is how she did the stream like a bad powerpoint, but it was surprisingly very accommodating
12/02
18:261764667598571047
18:261764667598571047
@darkwar232100
I also wish Biboo can be more carful about her health and watch where she is going lol. Seriously tho.
12/02
18:271764667644198086
18:271764667644198086
@Extaria
I was able to keep up with it pretty well despite the language barrier
12/02
18:271764667644520210
18:271764667644520210
@TreeeBark
I wonder how many vtuber fans in the future will do that, go into the medical field, to find cures what ailed their oshi
12/02
18:281764667686504579
18:281764667686504579
@TreeeBark
Pptenshi even all the way till now
12/02
18:291764667762538883
18:291764667762538883
@aura3746
HoloWitches is cursed by the way. Did a rebrand just recently and already going to have to add a new member.
12/02
18:291764667767779546
18:291764667767779546
@darkwar232100
The thing is that people always think Vtuber is an easy job, well in Hololive at least, it never is.
12/02
18:301764667830933250
18:301764667830933250
@darkwar232100
Girls need to stay in a well health condition to do streaming, recording and dancing, etc.
12/02
18:301764667850012876
18:301764667850012876
@aura3746
Nobody with a brain who actually watches them thinks it's easy to be fair. They're constantly busy, even more so now.
12/02
18:321764667927762485
18:321764667927762485
@TreeeBark
Even im only grasping the scope of things and i’ve been around since around when Kanata’s gen debuted
12/02
18:321764667943206085
18:321764667943206085
@darkwar232100
Then you can say many people have no brains lol. But a lot do think in that way, haven’t you heard some people say something like “It’s the easiest job…”
12/02
18:321764667944948714
18:321764667944948714
@TreeeBark
Like how hard it is to talk about things and why they have to be so vague all the time
12/02
18:331764668004932108
18:331764668004932108
@Extaria
The sheer amount of talent at display makes me respect their field immeasurably
12/02
18:331764668011259613
18:331764668011259613
@TreeeBark
I tried doing some of their dances before and that stuff is rough lol
12/02
18:331764668011592743
18:331764668011592743
@aura3746
I feel like they're pretty forthcoming about it, but maybe it varies by idol.
12/02
18:341764668087226674
18:341764668087226674
@darkwar232100
Biboo dance and singing improved a lot lately tho
12/02
18:351764668116252273
18:351764668116252273
@aura3746
Yeah, i'd imagine the "idol bootcamp" must be pretty nuts considering how quickly some of them improve.
12/02
18:361764668195471829
18:361764668195471829
@darkwar232100
Depends, I also think Biboo has a good dance teacher.
12/02
18:371764668228173820
18:371764668228173820
@darkwar232100
She mentioned her dance teacher a lot
12/02
18:371764668238918194
18:371764668238918194
@nikyuut
12/02
18:371764668265308682
18:371764668265308682
@AxcelTSX
12/02
18:381764668303666999
18:381764668303666999
@TreeeBark
Lot of members did just find out like us
12/02
18:381764668339679435
18:381764668339679435
@Extaria
So they didn't know... 
12/02
18:401764668424870833
18:401764668424870833
@AxcelTSX
12/02
18:411764668467776555
18:411764668467776555
@AxcelTSX
12/02
18:411764668514489958
18:411764668514489958
@aura3746
Dang it Biboo. It was just a moment, but Matsuri's tweet being "Huh"? made me just think are the closing screen.
12/02
18:421764668530276227
18:421764668530276227
@AxcelTSX
12/02
18:421764668550956986
18:421764668550956986
@darkwar232100
I wonder how Biboo feels right now, I know it’s not good to speculate but considering how close she is with Kanata…
12/02
18:421764668577288288
18:421764668577288288
@darkwar232100
12/02
18:431764668630262717
18:431764668630262717
@Sid影野
thats why i havent said anything about Biboo and Kanata
12/02
18:441764668656254676
18:441764668656254676
@aura3746
Are they close? When was that said?
12/02
18:451764668731891252
18:451764668731891252
@darkwar232100
I mean she did happen in Biboo’s 3D live, and they had conversations before in studio, plus the Rust.
12/02
18:451764668736741908
18:451764668736741908
@TreeeBark
I wouldnt say close, but they should be good friends. Afaik they wanted to hang out more
12/02
18:451764668757727301
18:451764668757727301
@TreeeBark
Kanata was always happy to see Biboo at the studio
12/02
18:461764668785290650
18:461764668785290650
@darkwar232100
Tbf, Biboo is like a princess in Studio, I assume lol
12/02
18:471764668837744096
18:471764668837744096
@Extaria
Biboo just has
vibes
12/02
18:491764668966746756
18:491764668966746756
@aura3746
I completely forgot she was in the 3D...with La+ even though it was one of my favorite parts.
12/02
18:501764669008507966
18:501764669008507966
@Extaria
Pretty hard for me to forget gorilla
12/02
18:511764669077509024
18:511764669077509024
@Extaria
I love that Biboo fully enjoys interacting with the others it's so fun to watch
12/02
18:521764669124147677
18:521764669124147677
@Extaria
Like when she was getting rough with the fox 
12/02
18:521764669177633468
18:521764669177633468
@Extaria
Definitely one of my favorite Lives
12/02
18:571764669446687078
18:571764669446687078
@Extaria
Anyway gonna go hit the bed now, take care everyone! 
12/02
18:581764669500540350
18:581764669500540350
@Sid影野
rest well Extaria
12/02
18:581764669514424072
18:581764669514424072
@aura3746
Later Extaria
12/02
19:001764669635960417
19:001764669635960417
@Ckkhris
Guys, my flights in an hour
12/02
19:011764669681382559
19:011764669681382559
@Ckkhris
And back home is my All for One merch, the happi and 8 random, which is waiting for me
12/02
19:021764669775100715
19:021764669775100715
@aura3746
8 random what?
12/02
19:031764669809116894
19:031764669809116894
@aura3746
Also speaking of merch...I finally bit the bullet and got the C103 Biboo Set. It wasn't cheap, but at least I have it now.
12/02
19:051764669958784738
19:051764669958784738
@Sid影野
Luna is talking about Kanata
12/02
19:061764669993162310
19:061764669993162310
@Sid影野
(her genmate btw, just incase someone didnt know that)
12/02
19:071764670042582712
19:071764670042582712
@Sid影野
she is talking about how she was scolding Kanata for streaming for so long
12/02
19:081764670085529749
19:081764670085529749
@Sid影野
in one of there last collab with Polka
12/02
19:111764670264127221
19:111764670264127221
@Sid影野
there=their*
12/02
19:111764670266086814
19:111764670266086814
@Ckkhris
Ah I forgot to put “button”
12/02
19:111764670304123741
19:111764670304123741
@Ckkhris
It’s random…but…I hope I got bingo
12/02
19:111764670316852746
19:111764670316852746
@Ckkhris
Biboo****
12/02
19:121764670337528285
19:121764670337528285
@aura3746
Oh okay, hope so too. I love the gacha stuff. I always try to get a couple when I see them.
12/02
19:121764670338933214
19:121764670338933214
@Ckkhris
Dang it that ipad auto correct
12/02
19:131764670381699876
19:131764670381699876
@Ckkhris
I failed to get the button last concert
12/02
19:161764670596173360
19:161764670596173360
@aura3746
Yeah...I won't be getting that order until late next month. All that merch dropped so close the HoloNatsu stuff, so it quickly ballooned out of control for me. Just ending up getting the acrylics.
12/02
19:501764672637891397
19:501764672637891397
@Ckkhris
okay...I'm getting on my flight now. I'll see you all in 10+ hours. I'll sleep on plane
12/02
19:531764672796968508
19:531764672796968508
@aura3746
See ya later, have a good flight
12/02
20:521764676330429471
20:521764676330429471
@Risathetako
メンバーシップ入り:Gemlins
12/02
22:111764681093594410
22:111764681093594410
@theBassES
I just rewatched their road trip date in Rust yesterday since it's one of my fave moments
12/02
22:551764683706349055
22:551764683706349055
@FspaceP
fck. just woke up and now extremely sad
12/02
23:011764684064542240
23:011764684064542240
@FspaceP
can't believe she even said no plans to return or reincarnate.. this is the most detailed announcement yet we've gotten
12/02
23:011764684103941526
23:011764684103941526
@Jimmy-sc8lw
メンバーシップ入り:Gemlins
12/02
23:121764684729743171
23:121764684729743171
@Galiaverse
12/02
23:161764684973710564
23:161764684973710564
@FspaceP
i honestly thought she'd be one of the longest people to stay in holo...sigh
12/02
23:161764684977007150
23:161764684977007150
@FspaceP
12/02
23:221764685330675027
23:221764685330675027
@Sid影野
i think she really would have even against doctor recommendation, but unfortunately, that is not reality
12/02
23:231764685399604285
23:231764685399604285
@Sid影野
or maybe i should say it in a positive perspective, fortunately, that that is not the reality (for her health sake)
12/02
23:241764685487648053
23:241764685487648053
@Galiaverse
I did read the TL'd twitt-longer. "Reality" probably is the right word to use. It's a multitude of things, but ultimately she has to be responsible for her own well-being.
12/02
23:251764685522592453
23:251764685522592453
@FspaceP
I just remember her stories of being poor and eating grass, and how holo changed all that. Thought she was in it for the long run. Man..
12/02
23:251764685539248596
23:251764685539248596
@Galiaverse
... ...But I suppose I'm always looking ahead. So for the current present moment, those who must mourn should mourn.
12/02
23:251764685547119157
23:251764685547119157
@FspaceP
She did have so many health stuff this year, while having her solo live high points
12/02
23:291764685798117279
23:291764685798117279
@Galiaverse
Oh yeah, and let's be real - 6 years is a long time! She has more than my respect for grinding this for so long even with management and health complications.
12/02
23:301764685808558717
23:301764685808558717
@FspaceP
I hope it's not because her meniere's became that much worse
12/02
23:301764685846226739
23:301764685846226739
@FspaceP
that kanacoco appearance in holo8 will be that much bittersweet
12/02
23:311764685877777940
23:311764685877777940
@Linksmasher
12/02
23:311764685903812270
23:311764685903812270
@Sid影野
she didnt sight management as the problem, she was just simply pointing out the nature of things she was dealing with
12/02
23:321764685975164354
23:321764685975164354
@FspaceP
Going to be crazy again though, have to limit social media again because of tourists and rrats..
12/02
23:331764685997747811
23:331764685997747811
@FspaceP
The one time @Sid影野 having a restricted account is a blessing
12/02
23:331764686009441555
23:331764686009441555
@Sid影野
in the end of it all, her Meniere's disease is very much probably the biggest factor
12/02
23:341764686068713607
23:341764686068713607
@Sid影野
Twitter actually allowed me to see all the posts today from after the announcement and up till now
12/02
23:361764686218844054
23:361764686218844054
@Galiaverse
@Sid影野 Indeed she didn't, nor am I implying. But it is correct to say there were complications. That's not a slight against Cover. Again, it's just reality.
12/02
23:371764686239379578
23:371764686239379578
@FspaceP
Yeah, her saying she won't be in any entertainment industry and be doing regular job feels like maybe her meniere's got worse
12/02
23:371764686242550780
23:371764686242550780
@Sid影野
she sighted the things she was dealing with management. so explain the nature of things on her plate, and then explained how she was trying to make those things better, one of the legacy she'll leave
12/02
23:381764686296752631
23:381764686296752631
@FspaceP
i hope she was able to save up enough in holo to live life comfortably at least
12/02
23:381764686339920058
23:381764686339920058
@Galiaverse
She does indicate she's been planning far ahead for this, so hopefully that is the case.
12/02
23:391764686392203544
23:391764686392203544
@Galiaverse
...And now I'm thinking of that scene from The Incredibles where the heroes are said to be walking among everyday citizens...
12/02
23:391764686395142124
23:391764686395142124
@Linksmasher
sid, were you able to hunt the phoenix?
12/02
23:401764686440453942
23:401764686440453942
@Sid影野
no Rinku, no success
12/02
23:411764686462782120
23:411764686462782120
@Linksmasher
dang it, I think she was playing with the mic open
12/02
23:411764686481997528
23:411764686481997528
@Sid影野
tomorrow is Roboco Arc again, so ill try looking for her
12/02
23:411764686482836334
23:411764686482836334
@Linksmasher
I missed the opportunity to ask her for a 7d2d collab.
12/02
23:411764686504719010
23:411764686504719010
@Linksmasher
I was terrible yesterday; my dizziness was extreme, to say the least.
12/02
23:421764686536141046
23:421764686536141046
@Linksmasher
I have been playing a bit lately, learned about a few mechanics and doing pvp for funsies
12/02
23:421764686550150904
23:421764686550150904
@Sid影野
yea, she was full on yappa mode on Arc
but its ok though, in pretty much every deployment she went on, she had KFP protecting and carrying her
12/02
23:421764686563692283
23:421764686563692283
@Linksmasher
I sent a video you a video
12/02
23:421764686577415438
23:421764686577415438
@Linksmasher
were they?
12/02
23:421764686579114891
23:421764686579114891
@Linksmasher
that's nice
12/02
23:431764686601899287
23:431764686601899287
@Sid影野
aside from a few stream snipes she had with some non KFP, like a Pemaloe, but they also protected her
12/02
23:431764686611336805
23:431764686611336805
@Linksmasher
I sent a video to you on your discord*
12/02
23:441764686641089727
23:441764686641089727
@Linksmasher
my algorithm showed me that video
12/02
23:441764686676443535
23:441764686676443535
@Sid影野
ogey, ill try to watch it before eep, if not then ill watch it when i wake
12/02
23:451764686704585822
23:451764686704585822
@Sid影野
hope your dizziness has gotten better
12/02
23:451764686720687431
23:451764686720687431
@Linksmasher
yeah, I need to eat 
12/02
23:451764686737571974
23:451764686737571974
@Linksmasher
guess who wasted money on a super that probably missed big shot instead of eating something 
12/02
23:461764686786017690
23:461764686786017690
@Sid影野
there is a clip, (but i think its more funny to watch the portion of that deployment) of the Pemaloe trolling her the whole deployment till the very end of that extraction
12/02
23:471764686854840026
23:471764686854840026
@Linksmasher
I'm watching it right now
12/02
23:471764686867882072
23:471764686867882072
@Linksmasher
dang, I really missed the opportunity to tell her about 7d2d
12/02
23:471764686868501097
23:471764686868501097
@Sid影野
oh boy, there there Rinku
12/02
23:481764686883476811
23:481764686883476811
@Linksmasher
and that I was utterly grateful for all the mage arena collabs she was cooking
12/02
23:481764686889810203
23:481764686889810203
@Linksmasher
oh and of course, AMOGUS
12/02
23:481764686906100766
23:481764686906100766
@Sid影野
well Wawa said at the end of the Arc stream that she'll be doing another one and more of it
12/02
23:481764686911578400
23:481764686911578400
@Linksmasher
I'm not a KFP, but I know she is the one behind those collabs
12/02
23:481764686919252334
23:481764686919252334
@Linksmasher
NICE
12/02
23:481764686928427702
23:481764686928427702
@Linksmasher
I hope to be better for that moment
12/02
23:491764686943184814
23:491764686943184814
@Linksmasher
I was destroyed yesterday, I sleep for around 18, no joke
12/02
23:491764686948327864
23:491764686948327864
@Linksmasher
18 hours*
12/02
23:491764686949709003
23:491764686949709003
@Sid影野
she really enjoyed Arc (but its probably cuz she got to meet and talked to a lot of Hololive viewers)
12/02
23:491764686964012774
23:491764686964012774
@Linksmasher
didn't eat a thing, just bweh and 
12/02
23:501764687006450908
23:501764687006450908
@Sid影野
and lets be real, ofc she had a good time, since no stream snipers was out to
her
12/02
23:511764687068156437
23:511764687068156437
@Sid影野
for us with Biboo, i guess for better or worse, we show our love differently in those types of game, i guess is nicest way i can put it
12/02
23:511764687070167121
23:511764687070167121
@Linksmasher
hmm hmm
12/02
23:511764687084323739
23:511764687084323739
@Linksmasher
well, Kirby....................
12/02
23:511764687096552137
23:511764687096552137
@Linksmasher
as much as I love to watch her playing Kirby
12/02
23:511764687108892877
23:511764687108892877
@Linksmasher
The amount of unnecessary bullying was ridiculous
12/02
23:511764687112075604
23:511764687112075604
@Sid影野
well, Kirby was just bruh
12/02
23:521764687128171045
23:521764687128171045
@Sid影野
is all i will say about that, dont want to get into that mood before eep
12/02
23:521764687131983507
23:521764687131983507
@Linksmasher
worst of all, watching chat saying "now that we bully you, it is not the same, huh?"
12/02
23:521764687146472981
23:521764687146472981
@Linksmasher
bro... She "BULLY" us, she is just showing appreciation
12/02
23:521764687154994927
23:521764687154994927
@Linksmasher
people re really idiotic
12/02
23:531764687186044214
23:531764687186044214
@Linksmasher
one thing is to bully like the microwave thing, or the yeet thing, whatever, it is up to your imagination
12/02
23:531764687215627047
23:531764687215627047
@Linksmasher
but making the game un-playable for someone is not the same as bullying, that is just being TRASH
12/02
23:531764687224358746
23:531764687224358746
@Galiaverse
12/02
23:531764687232956878
23:531764687232956878
@Sid影野
yea, and even if we "bully" her in Arc, we still revived her or the fact that she still benefit from our items for the rough play
12/02
23:541764687249714879
23:541764687249714879
@Sid影野
the Kirby bullying was just "bruh"
12/02
23:541764687262462706
23:541764687262462706
@Linksmasher
I really wanted to join her game and protect her, I don't mind losing one game in order to make her enjoy it
12/02
23:541764687276285262
23:541764687276285262
@Sid影野
@Galia, nah, im done now about that, like i said earlier, dont want to go to eep with that
12/02
23:541764687284005623
23:541764687284005623
@Linksmasher
I'm still on this Galia because this is something big
12/02
23:541764687292982073
23:541764687292982073
@Linksmasher
to me, it speaks a lot
12/02
23:541764687295384659
23:541764687295384659
@Galiaverse
(x,X(@=(o_o@) ... That took me back. I made that ascii plenty of times in my past.
12/02
23:551764687324726574
23:551764687324726574
@Linksmasher
it might affect other online games to play with her as well
12/02
23:561764687362464958
23:561764687362464958
@Linksmasher
I just don't want to be tinted because of some bad apples
12/02
23:561764687367152504
23:561764687367152504
@Linksmasher
and there are so many already...
12/02
23:561764687394456656
23:561764687394456656
@Galiaverse
...Maybe that's why as far back as Biboo's valentine's day stream, her bullying us in my eyes... ... ... 
12/02
23:571764687436157645
23:571764687436157645
@Linksmasher
wasn't it funny?
12/02
23:571764687458858255
23:571764687458858255
@Linksmasher
that's my opinion, that was funny, unexpected, and for your kink, appreciated
12/02
23:571764687475900315
23:571764687475900315
@Galiaverse
Uh... right... Uh... Funny, yes. 

12/02
23:571764687476065189
23:571764687476065189
@Linksmasher
to me was funny and done, but what happened during kirby, was not funny
12/02
23:581764687498097127
23:581764687498097127
@Linksmasher
forced herself to go online lobbies to avoid pebbles hunting her was not funny at all